Overclock.net › Forums › Case Mods & Cases › Sponsored Builds & Case Mods › [Sponsored] Excessive Insanity 2 computers in a Case Labs TX10-D with Triple Pedestals Sponsored by EK Water Blocks
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[Sponsored] Excessive Insanity 2 computers in a Case Labs TX10-D with Triple Pedestals Sponsored by EK Water Blocks - Page 96

post #951 of 4498
Quote:
Originally Posted by wthenshaw View Post

This.

Wait. Which part of that? headscratch.gif

Yeah, I get that appeal completely (I love the sustainable lifestyle), and I agree with your supposition about college not being necessary, except it totally is. doh.gif

I say this because of one simple thing:
"Oh, Mr. Applicant, you don't have that paper that says you stuck your nose into a book / computer screen for __ # of years? Aww, well there's the door, and good luck!"

I played that game right there for two-and-a-half years with employers here in the U.S., and this is a person that was a military-trained civil engineering technician, meteorologist's tech, aerial navigation specialist, and combat veteran, and none of that mattered 'cause I didn't have a degree to back it up!
There ARE exceptions to that rule, obviously, but in technology fields? No, not really.
That fella up there (The_Hairy_Yak) got an "In" by getting an internship, and basically bypassed the BS, and that's one of the exceptions I was referring to... thumb.gif

I love my job, I love all the land I own, and my condo in CO (selling that), and all of what I can provide for my family, so I suppose as long as all of that is in order, it really doesn't matter who's got what! biggrin.gif



Thanks - T
post #952 of 4498
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thrasher1016 View Post



Wait. Which part of that? headscratch.gif

Yeah, I get that appeal completely (I love the sustainable lifestyle), and I agree with your supposition about college not being necessary, except it totally is. doh.gif

I say this because of one simple thing:
"Oh, Mr. Applicant, you don't have that paper that says you stuck your nose into a book / computer screen for __ # of years? Aww, well there's the door, and good luck!"

I played that game right there for two-and-a-half years with employers here in the U.S., and this is a person that was a military-trained civil engineering technician, meteorologist's tech, aerial navigation specialist, and combat veteran, and none of that mattered 'cause I didn't have a degree to back it up!
There ARE exceptions to that rule, obviously, but in technology fields? No, not really.
That fella up there (The_Hairy_Yak) got an "In" by getting an internship, and basically bypassed the BS, and that's one of the exceptions I was referring to... thumb.gif

I love my job, I love all the land I own, and my condo in CO (selling that), and all of what I can provide for my family, so I suppose as long as all of that is in order, it really doesn't matter who's got what! biggrin.gif



Thanks - T

I was referring to the self sustainable section of that, and I certainly know first hand that in the UK it is super difficult to get a well paying job without a slip of paper showing your qualifications. I'm not sure how familiar you are with the different exam/qualification types that the UK uses but i did awful in my GCSEs (high school) but they managed to get me into college where I am doing the highest level of Software Development and Programming (even though my speciality is hardware, programming will pay better)
AMD Money Pit
(13 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardRAMRAM
AMD Athlon X2 5000+  Asrock N61P-S Samsung 512MB DDR2 Samsung 512MB DDR2 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
Seagate 80GB SATA Cooler Master Phenom II Stock Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Dell Slim 160 Watt 
Case
XBOX Original Casing 
  hide details  
Reply
AMD Money Pit
(13 items)
 
   
CPUMotherboardRAMRAM
AMD Athlon X2 5000+  Asrock N61P-S Samsung 512MB DDR2 Samsung 512MB DDR2 
Hard DriveCoolingOSPower
Seagate 80GB SATA Cooler Master Phenom II Stock Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Dell Slim 160 Watt 
Case
XBOX Original Casing 
  hide details  
Reply
post #953 of 4498
Quote:
Originally Posted by wthenshaw View Post

I was referring to the self sustainable section of that, and I certainly know first hand that in the UK it is super difficult to get a well paying job without a slip of paper showing your qualifications. I'm not sure how familiar you are with the different exam/qualification types that the UK uses but i did awful in my GCSEs (high school) but they managed to get me into college where I am doing the highest level of Software Development and Programming (even though my speciality is hardware, programming will pay better)

Not as familiar as I should be to have an intelligent conversation about it, embarrassingly enough! redface.gif


Yeah, I'm no hippie, but I don't believe we should use and abuse the planet. We are this world's only stewards, and this is our only world so far, and realistically, probably ever, so we owe our existence to making concerted efforts to sustain what we have.
When I was taking sustainable design classes for my Architecture degree, I really got into that, and while I still shop at the store and I still drive a CE vehicle, I do what I can to minimize the impact of my modern family on the space around me!
Always been an outdoorsman too, and I hate seeing wild spaces losing their wildness... thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif


ASIDE: I think we hijacked Scott's thread while he's on the plane!!! biggrin.gif


Thanks - T
post #954 of 4498
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thrasher1016 View Post



Wait. Which part of that? headscratch.gif

Yeah, I get that appeal completely (I love the sustainable lifestyle), and I agree with your supposition about college not being necessary, except it totally is. doh.gif

I say this because of one simple thing:
"Oh, Mr. Applicant, you don't have that paper that says you stuck your nose into a book / computer screen for __ # of years? Aww, well there's the door, and good luck!"

I played that game right there for two-and-a-half years with employers here in the U.S., and this is a person that was a military-trained civil engineering technician, meteorologist's tech, aerial navigation specialist, and combat veteran, and none of that mattered 'cause I didn't have a degree to back it up!
There ARE exceptions to that rule, obviously, but in technology fields? No, not really.
That fella up there (The_Hairy_Yak) got an "In" by getting an internship, and basically bypassed the BS, and that's one of the exceptions I was referring to... thumb.gif

I love my job, I love all the land I own, and my condo in CO (selling that), and all of what I can provide for my family, so I suppose as long as all of that is in order, it really doesn't matter who's got what! biggrin.gif



Thanks - T

Quote:
Originally Posted by wthenshaw View Post

I was referring to the self sustainable section of that, and I certainly know first hand that in the UK it is super difficult to get a well paying job without a slip of paper showing your qualifications. I'm not sure how familiar you are with the different exam/qualification types that the UK uses but i did awful in my GCSEs (high school) but they managed to get me into college where I am doing the highest level of Software Development and Programming (even though my speciality is hardware, programming will pay better)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thrasher1016 View Post



Not as familiar as I should be to have an intelligent conversation about it, embarrassingly enough! redface.gif


Yeah, I'm no hippie, but I don't believe we should use and abuse the planet. We are this world's only stewards, and this is our only world so far, and realistically, probably ever, so we owe our existence to making concerted efforts to sustain what we have.
When I was taking sustainable design classes for my Architecture degree, I really got into that, and while I still shop at the store and I still drive a CE vehicle, I do what I can to minimize the impact of my modern family on the space around me!
Always been an outdoorsman too, and I hate seeing wild spaces losing their wildness... thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif


ASIDE: I think we hijacked Scott's thread while he's on the plane!!! biggrin.gif


Thanks - T

I actually like the intellectually stimulating conversation and I do agree with a lot of what you said except that in the USA if you are willing to work in the right industry it dose not matter about the education it makes it a lot easier and a lot faster with a education but dose not matter if you have the talent. with your skills and if you were willing to work in my industry with time away from home I could get you a well paying job you could advance from depending on your talent very easy!!! look at the oil industry the starting jobs are at 6 figures and my job is well above this. starting is entry level and then it goes up from there!!

T send me a resume if you are not happy and I will see what I can do... depending on your skill level would depend on pay.. I made close to half a mil if you count what company paid for foreign tax and bonus plus extra time worked and I am just a damn electrician by trade!!!!
Edited by seross69 - 5/29/13 at 12:35pm
post #955 of 4498
Quote:
Originally Posted by seross69 View Post

Yeah T been on a plane while you were sleeping and working 14 hours to Tokyo 2 hour break in lounge to drink and look at the forums.. then another 7 hours to singapore. have about 10 hours there and then another flight to Indonesia..
It always helps open doors when you know someone. life is about networking, meeting people and marketing your self constantly. But even with this you still need talent and hard work.
I am going to look into sewing the Cables together but I also want the wires stiff also.
Yeah just got off plane and I know a lot of things are going to change my original planes and layout..


Its a big case you have, You are thinking about a 3e pedestel. Where are you going to use a 3e pedestel for.
Do you make sketches for your build. It helpt me.

Mounted the acrylic in the pedestel and wanted to do more but my drilling machine need repair it sudenly gave up. i now what parts i need but cant tell it in englisch.

tongue.gif
post #956 of 4498
T - What you said is commonly the case... however, it's mostly the case in jobs you (OK, I shouldn't speak for you) make that jobs I would never want. If you want to work in a multi-national corporation as some kind of cube-zombie or hamster-wheel joe punchclock... then yes - an interviewer will likely show you to the door after indicating that you only have a HS diploma. However, there are plenty of situations (especially in technology) where that piece of paper doesn't mean squat to the interviewer.

I wish I was able to hire someone at our company, but since I don't really need the manpower - and I'd likely have to cut my pay or at least my budget + bonus - to do so... I'm out of that game at the moment. However, when I was in my previous position as MIS Director for a reasonably large industrial laundry company (~$100M/yr - 2500 employees) a degree would have counted against you when I was interviewing for new positions. In general I have a distaste for academics in technology - at least in IT/IS as applied in non-tech industries. If you have an EE... great - but until you're proven I'm not paying for the paper... unless I'm actually hiring for an engineering position. If you have a CS/CIS degree... I wouldn't have even bothered to give you an interview. I did at first - but after the first 20 applicants I saw a decided pattern that turned me off to anyone that would choose that major.

Ultimately I wound up hiring a housewife with no professional skills but incredible aptitude (she just worked from home building computers for friends and family), and a retired veteran (who might have had a degree, don't know and didn't care) who was an amateur radio enthusiast. Later on I hired a kid I just met at Frys who was just loitering in the networking aisle - who had no experience or education but wanted to work with networking so bad he was buying hardware to 'play with' thumb.gif

They did a decent job of replacing me when I left the next year... wink.gif

At my current job, I had two employees that were both CIS bachelors holders... and after 6 months I had to fire both of them because I was just too sick of fixing their mistakes and constantly hearing how they were underpaid - despite getting full-time salaries for working ~30hrs/wk. It's much less work NOW - with no employees than it was with the two of them constantly blowing things up. Incidentally, the one guy actually got WORSE after we paid for him to get his MCSE... mad.gif
post #957 of 4498
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thrasher1016 View Post

Wait. Which part of that? headscratch.gif

Yeah, I get that appeal completely (I love the sustainable lifestyle), and I agree with your supposition about college not being necessary, except it totally is. doh.gif

I say this because of one simple thing:
"Oh, Mr. Applicant, you don't have that paper that says you stuck your nose into a book / computer screen for __ # of years? Aww, well there's the door, and good luck!"

I played that game right there for two-and-a-half years with employers here in the U.S., and this is a person that was a military-trained civil engineering technician, meteorologist's tech, aerial navigation specialist, and combat veteran, and none of that mattered 'cause I didn't have a degree to back it up!
There ARE exceptions to that rule, obviously, but in technology fields? No, not really.
That fella up there (The_Hairy_Yak) got an "In" by getting an internship, and basically bypassed the BS, and that's one of the exceptions I was referring to... thumb.gif

I love my job, I love all the land I own, and my condo in CO (selling that), and all of what I can provide for my family, so I suppose as long as all of that is in order, it really doesn't matter who's got what! biggrin.gif

Thanks - T
My opinion is simple. If you turn me down due to not having a government induced hyper inflated piece of paper, I DO NOT want to work for you anyways. Same goes for a drug test, you are not entitled to know what I do outside of work. If my personality, projected values, and talents are not enough for you then I will gladly show myself the door. America has done an amazing job suckering people into debt and luxury in order to chase the American dream, but it is simply unsustainable. We are absolutely to wasteful and it is quite despicable.

That being said, I have a special place in my heart for technology and its inherent evils. I just believe everything you use or buy should be a conscious decision and firmly acknowledge the evils associated with them.

- Philosophy from an ignorant 21 year old
post #958 of 4498
Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Hairy_Yak View Post

-snip-

- Philosophy from an ignorant 21 year old

If every ignorant 21 year old had the same philosophy as you do, I personally would have far less fear for our future as a republic. wink.gif
post #959 of 4498
Quote:
Originally Posted by DiGiCiDAL View Post

If every ignorant 21 year old had the same philosophy as you do, I personally would have far less fear for our future as a republic. wink.gif

Amen to that!! thumbsupsmiley.png
post #960 of 4498
Quote:
Originally Posted by DiGiCiDAL View Post

T - What you said is commonly the case... however, it's mostly the case in jobs you (OK, I shouldn't speak for you) make that jobs I would never want. If you want to work in a multi-national corporation as some kind of cube-zombie or hamster-wheel joe punchclock... then yes - an interviewer will likely show you to the door after indicating that you only have a HS diploma. However, there are plenty of situations (especially in technology) where that piece of paper doesn't mean squat to the interviewer.

I wish I was able to hire someone at our company, but since I don't really need the manpower - and I'd likely have to cut my pay or at least my budget + bonus - to do so... I'm out of that game at the moment. However, when I was in my previous position as MIS Director for a reasonably large industrial laundry company (~$100M/yr - 2500 employees) a degree would have counted against you when I was interviewing for new positions. In general I have a distaste for academics in technology - at least in IT/IS as applied in non-tech industries. If you have an EE... great - but until you're proven I'm not paying for the paper... unless I'm actually hiring for an engineering position. If you have a CS/CIS degree... I wouldn't have even bothered to give you an interview. I did at first - but after the first 20 applicants I saw a decided pattern that turned me off to anyone that would choose that major.

Ultimately I wound up hiring a housewife with no professional skills but incredible aptitude (she just worked from home building computers for friends and family), and a retired veteran (who might have had a degree, don't know and didn't care) who was an amateur radio enthusiast. Later on I hired a kid I just met at Frys who was just loitering in the networking aisle - who had no experience or education but wanted to work with networking so bad he was buying hardware to 'play with' thumb.gif

They did a decent job of replacing me when I left the next year... wink.gif

At my current job, I had two employees that were both CIS bachelors holders... and after 6 months I had to fire both of them because I was just too sick of fixing their mistakes and constantly hearing how they were underpaid - despite getting full-time salaries for working ~30hrs/wk. It's much less work NOW - with no employees than it was with the two of them constantly blowing things up. Incidentally, the one guy actually got WORSE after we paid for him to get his MCSE... mad.gif

This post just made me flash back to when I was working HP... I'm not going to sleep tonight because that place caused a ridiculous amount of stress in my life - came to the point where I was having not so nice thoughts about my boss. frown.gif I can never return to the IT field... but at least I've started to love building computers for myself again.
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Sponsored Builds & Case Mods
Overclock.net › Forums › Case Mods & Cases › Sponsored Builds & Case Mods › [Sponsored] Excessive Insanity 2 computers in a Case Labs TX10-D with Triple Pedestals Sponsored by EK Water Blocks