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Sorry, that was meant to be a joke more than anything else. The last thing i want to do is bring apple into this lol.

sure but my point still stands. they should have made a laptop/desktop hybrid os instead, instead of focusing on touchscreens for x86 system, when there is no proof people want them and a fair amount of proof people don't given the added cost. it's not touchscreen laptops have exactly taken off in sales
post #132 of 213
Personally I like Windows 8 desktop part only. It's a bit faster and works good.

Still, I hate Metro and the touch interface they added. I hardly use Metro and when I'm forced to use it or lauch it it's irritating. The worst part is the dumb charms bar that I have to wait to animate when using a mouse. That little time it take to animate is very irritating.

Also, Windows 8 is not selling well. People can defend it all they want but its just not selling. Every week you can read up on CEOs not happy with Microsoft because their Windows 8 products aren't selling well. Not just that but companies don't seem to be upgrading to Windows 8 at all.

People can say that desktop business is just slow or in decline but Apple seems gaining desktop market share (slowly but surely). Even companies and governments are moving away from Mircrosoft products.

I actually worry about MS. They are really suffering right now and I don't know how much longer the Xbox and Office division can keep them afloat. Windows 8 is just not that appealing to anyone other than touch/metro fans.

I personally like what Apple is doing with their touch/desktop environment. Their touch in their Mac is more about the touchpad as people already said. Touch screens just doesn't belong to a desktop or laptop computer. That is why I can't wait to get my MacBook Pro. I'll boot camp to Windows only to play games. Other than that I can't wait to move away from Windows already.

In my family we are all moving to Macs this summer. They also don't like Windows 8 very much at all.
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Don't bother, you can't reason with the OCN Windows-Hate Club.

this 65 million times over

let them hate, when windows 7 loses updates they will be stuck with it having security risk, or updating to a newer OS.
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this 65 million times over

let them hate, when windows 7 loses updates they will be stuck with it having security risk, or updating to a newer OS.

Just to put that bitterness in perspective, Windows XP (which was released in 2001) still gets security updates. Granted, they will stop roughly a year from now, but a 13 year run on an OS isn't too shabby. Windows 7 support will very likely stick around just as long if not longer due to the fact that W7 has been so broadly adopted by large and slow-to-upgrade businesses, schools, etc.

Maybe by 2022 Windows 8 will be workable. I'll worry about it then.
    
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sure but my point still stands. they should have made a laptop/desktop hybrid os instead, instead of focusing on touchscreens for x86 system, when there is no proof people want them and a fair amount of proof people don't given the added cost. it's not touchscreen laptops have exactly taken off in sales

It's not like normal laptops or even desktops have exactly been selling well for the last couple years. If OEM's were selling boatloads of laptops and desktops, they wouldn't have needed to try and innovate.
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honestly i don't see the issue you all are having. unless you spend all your time in Windows 7 start menu, there's really not much else different with windows 8. You still have your desktop, your icons, your task bar, and if you want, a fully customizable start menu.

chrome still acts the same
games act the same
windows explorer acts the same

so whats the issue? You don't like that your start menu can't be limited to the bottom left of your screen anymore?
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post #137 of 213
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It's not like normal laptops or even desktops have exactly been selling well for the last couple years. If OEM's were selling boatloads of laptops and desktops, they wouldn't have needed to try and innovate.

sure but they are trying to sell pcs by using a gimmick that has the negative side effect of increasing costs. touch laptop sales speak for themselves, both oems and ms have been disappointed with them
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honestly i don't see the issue you all are having. unless you spend all your time in Windows 7 start menu, there's really not much else different with windows 8. You still have your desktop, your icons, your task bar, and if you want, a fully customizable start menu.

chrome still acts the same
games act the same
windows explorer acts the same

so whats the issue? You don't like that your start menu can't be limited to the bottom left of your screen anymore?

This.

Windows 8 will not stop you from doing ANYTHING that you did in previous windows versions.

Also, I rarely go into the metro ui on my desktop and on my school laptop (that has windows 7) I can't even remember the last time i clicked the start button. Again, the start menu was a bad design from the start and is why everyone's desktops are eventually littered with icons. People probably don't realize how little they actually use the start menu/screen... It's almost comical that the start menu feature is what everyone clasped onto as their main reason for hating windows 8.

Here's a what if? for you:

What if Microsoft trashes the metro ui and gives you a normal start button? Would everyone complaining, all of a sudden go out and buy windows 8 and Microsoft would be saved?

No.

Everyone complaining right now would say, "Well, it's exactly like windows 7... I don't need windows 8". Everyone screams revolution and change, yet when they have to live with it, it's just excuse after excuse of why they hate It. Never addressing the real issue, in that, people just dislike change. Plain and simple.

Second off, PC sales are down, in general. It has nothing to do with operating systems. So one of the largest ways a windows OS gains traction (by bundling with OEM's) has become irrelevant.
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sure but they are trying to sell pcs by using a gimmick that has the negative side effect of increasing costs. touch laptop sales speak for themselves, both oems and ms have been disappointed with them

PC sales have been down. Touch screen laptops or not. Any attempt at innovation is going to incur increased costs, it's just a risk that companies have to take. It's so easy to sit there and say "wow they are so dumb touch screens pff, new start menu pff". What do you propose they do? How do they turn around the struggling PC market? They can't just sit there selling the same old OS and desktops/laptops quarter after quarter, or they will slowly die.
Edited by Ultracarpet - 3/26/13 at 8:42am
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It will never happen until you show them that there is a market to be had there. Let us put it this way...if you go there they will build it (assuming you actually pay).


If the developers don't know that by now then I honestly feel sorry for them.
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Sorry, that was meant to be a joke more than anything else. The last thing i want to do is bring apple into this lol.

You should definitely bring Apple in to this, then kick off red vs green for good measure.

It'll then be the holy trinity of evil on OCN in one place and we can all avoid this thread, peace and harmony will return to all biggrin.gif
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