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totally agree. however i hope i have not come off like that as that was not my intent.

however that being said. i am sick of everyone telling people they are wrong because they dont believe the same way (ie dont smoke. if some one is educated enough to know that smoking is bad and old enough to make their own choices. why can they not do what they want, spend their money they worked hard for on what they want instead of having someone else opinions shoved down their throat. ) [ not advocating for or against smoking. however i am advocating for the right of ease responsible adult to be able to make up their own minds.]

Hard to compare it to smoking though as smoking can affect others health other than their own. But that's aside the point.

I personally enjoy overclocking as a hobby and find it entertaining, even though I generally run stock as stock performance is overkill for my day to day tasks but have the overclock profile saved if I need to do a task that requires more power. I do however though think it is a bit silly to come to a site devoted to overclocking and tell people that they shouldn't do it. If someone doesn't want to overclock, fine, but no need to belittle other people that enjoy doing it or at least want to learn about it.

Cost is moot. Everyone has their vices and hobbies. Money is literally made to be spent.
 
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Live and let live. If someone wants to overclock, then be cool with it and let them have their freedom. If someone doesn't want to overclock, then be cool with it and let them have their freedom.

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-suppose you used to run any game at high/ max settings (performance).. why would you still want to overclock your CPU or GPU?

Either for future-proofing or to be able to do other things at the same time. A lot of overclockers are also not gamers, they may be building a system for video editing (the faster your processor is the faster you'll finish, so there really isn't a "max out" there, bitcoin mining, protein folding, or some other project that I haven't mentioned. Personally, I built my computer to game, and while I have great average frame rates on my machine, the minimum framerates I experience are less than satisfactory, so I will be upgrading in the near future.

-Does overclocking means if you have AMD HD 7850 overclocked, it will perform same as an AMD 7970 or the GTX 680?

Not exactly, you're talking about different cards, so it would be difficult to quantify exactly how much you would have to tune a lower-tier card to match a higher-tier card, especially if you're talking different architecture (amd vs nvidia). What it does mean is that you can get similar performance by overclocking your GTX 670 that you can get out of a GTX 680 (unless you overclock the 680 also)

-if that is then why do people buy the 7970 but, not the 7850 and overclock it? again why is overclocking really necessarily to a gamer?

Overclocking isn't "necessary", it's an option. Usually it's a free option (not counting the additional cost of the K-series processor in the case of intel i5/i7 cpu's, or the additional cost of a higher-end motherboard), meaning that your performance out of the box is what you paid to get, but then with a little time and patience, you can get even more performance out of the same hardware by overclocking. Why is it useful? It means instead of buying a $320 i7 3770K to get faster than the stock 3.4 GHz that the 3570K is out of the box, I can overclock the processor and get those extra cycles (my 3570K is running at 4.7 GHz under load, it idles at whatever the default is, I think 1.6 GHz).

I'm not positive, but I think you seem to be asking what benefit there actually is to overclocking. That's not an overly simple answer to give, but to make it short, essentially your cpu can execute instructions at a certain rate per cycle. whatever your clock speed is is the number of those cycles over time, so a 3.4 GHz i5 3570K cycles 3.4 billion times per second with whatever tasks it needs to execute loaded into each cycle. If you are requiring something of your computer that requires more instructions be executed than there is time to complete them, you either need to force more instructions into each cycle, have another processor perform the tasks (that's what the extra cores in a processor are there for, but the program must be written to use multiple threads in order to support this), or make those cycles happen faster. Overclocking is pasically the user taking the 3rd option to mkae their computer faster, since you can't realy do the first one as an end user, and you're more or less stuck with the same number of cores on the die as you had when you bought the chip so number 2 isn't really an option. Since 1 and 2 both require you to purchase a new processor, option 3 is the one that's feasible. This is an overly-simplified view, but it should give the general idea
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+1000
1-2)only if they can prove it was the reason your item ( cpu mobo ect ) was the cause at least in america. and if you buy an extended warranty that covers ocing ( IE Microcenter warrantys) then what is your excuse?

4)i would of bought the 3rd party coolers anyway

5) go back to my hobby statements.

6) negligible. especially with todays ability to downclock and use less volts built into most motherboards when not in use...
i go back to my quote..... hobby.
Why jump out of a perfectly good airplane??

my next question to you.. We are ok if not everyone wants to oc their machine, why can you not be ok that we want to?

I am putting a stop to OCing , I mean its something that is possible for your pc, so why not go ahead and OC?... in thus thread, I heard OC does no huge improvement when the cores reach some point. That's fine, thus mean to me OC is not very important, what is important is to save more and the the better one. I was thinking of OC anything that's possible to do so in my PC., this includes (ram, gpu, cpu etc.)

But it seems like its not necessary because the cost of the fun and the proper case for taking for taking out the heat from my PC when I OC can improve my chance if buying the AMD 8350 instead of X4 955.
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1-2)only if they can prove it was the reason your item ( cpu mobo ect ) was the cause at least in america. and if you buy an extended warranty that covers ocing ( IE Microcenter warrantys) then what is your excuse?

4)i would of bought the 3rd party coolers anyway

5) go back to my hobby statements.

6) negligible. especially with todays ability to downclock and use less volts built into most motherboards when not in use...
i go back to my quote..... hobby.
Why jump out of a perfectly good airplane??

my next question to you.. We are ok if not everyone wants to oc their machine, why can you not be ok that we want to?

I am putting a stop to OCing , I mean its something that is possible for your pc, so why not go ahead and OC?... in thus thread, I heard OC does no huge improvement when the cores reach some point. That's fine, thus mean to me OC is not very important, what is important is to save more and the the better one. I was thinking of OC anything that's possible to do so in my PC., this includes (ram, gpu, cpu etc.)

But it seems like its not necessary because the cost of the fun and the proper case for taking for taking out the heat from my PC when I OC can improve my chance if buying the AMD 8350 instead of X4 955.
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I am putting a stop to OCing , I mean its something that is possible for your pc, so why not go ahead and OC?... in thus thread, I heard OC does no huge improvement when the cores reach some point. That's fine, thus mean to me OC is not very important, what is important is to save more and the the better one. I was thinking of OC anything that's possible to do so in my PC., this includes (ram, gpu, cpu etc.)

But it seems like its not necessary because the cost of the fun and the proper case for taking for taking out the heat from my PC when I OC can improve my chance if buying the AMD 8350 instead of X4 955.

 

Perhaps we should remind you that you're on Overclock.net.

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Perhaps we should remind you that you're on Overclock.net.

I guess it's just a name for the site. I like here because I have got technicians to help me and anyone, with queries about their PCs...
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I guess it's just a name for the site. I like here because I have got technicians to help me and anyone, with queries about their PCs...
It's not just a name, seriously. Sites are made with a name of their vision and mission (Vision is long-term and Mission is short-term)

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I guess it's just a name for the site. I like here because I have got technicians to help me and anyone, with queries about their PCs...

 

I am beginning to think that I should agree with those who accused you of only coming here to troll us. I apologize if this is not the case, but this last post here is really making me wonder what your intentions are.

 

Yes, this has become a great place for technical help, but our main focus is overclocking and all things pertaining to "the pursuit of performance". This doesn't mean people aren't allowed to come here or to be here who don't want to overclock or who are against overclocking. Instead, it just means that everyone needs to be clear about one thing: the majority of the people here prefer to overclock, and some of the people here don't really like it when people ask why because that should be obvious. There are many reasons why. Pick one and go with it. It doesn't matter.

 

So if you're against overclocking, then so be it. Everyone has that right because it's a freedom we are all born with. Just don't try to convince any overclocker to stop overclocking because you'll be barking up the wrong tree.


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