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Unless Haswell turns out to be a CPU on steroids (unlikely from current early previews although these are early ES), I think I'll wait for IB-E and buy another Titan in the meantime. I know there's 10-15% to be had in most tasks compared to IB but the gains made just aren't selling it to me. Looks like I'll be on my 2600k for a while longer.
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Hope you have a 1440P monitor if you have a Titan
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What I've been saying to others is wait till we see how it OCs.

If you don't care about that, I think the 2500k will be fine. I don't see DDR4 being mainstream for a while, unless you want to pay an arm and a leg for it as soon as it comes out.
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Hope you have a 1440P monitor if you have a Titan

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post #14 of 18
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Hope you have a multi-monitor setup if you have a Titan
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Off topic.....

Only a single monitor, more importantly though, my yearly review/bonus this year was sweet, so why not? thumb.gif
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Over a year ago I purchased a 2500k for $160 on sale at Microcenter. It's currently residing at a friends house in the state I purchased it. I won't be back there until June or so. My thoughts are purchase end of the line Z77 board, or potentially pickup Haswell chip and board. Since Haswell is coming out in June I believe it might work out well. What do you guys think? Is it worth it and will Haswell be using DDR4?

I would wait for Haswell to come out, and see what it brings to the table.
There are a lot of rumors these times, but I would wait for benchmarks/reviews.

It is just a matter of monthes, so wait instead of (maybe) having regrets after. wink.gif

I'm on the same boat, I would like to get rid of my i7 990x for a newer platform (and since I only do gaming, something more suited for my use) and I was tempted to move to Ivy Bridge or Sandy Bridge-e but I think I'll wait a few more.
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So true...

I'm also debating going with Haswell or not but i'm still on a Lynnfield CPU.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVaV7jaLXa0 a good video to watch near end he states flat out the haswell 4770k oem cooler cant cool the CPU at stock and causes thermal throttling and a corsair h100I barely is capable of keeping it below the point of thermal throttling on stock clocks under heavy load like 5c-10c from thermal throttling.

stock cooler stock clocks / settings still overheating and throttling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqr06oL_hwk

add to it many have found haswell to actually draw more power than theyre previous Ivy Bridge even at stock settings which is a bit puzzling given Intel has tried to force feed us that it uses less and is far more efficient across board yet it literally puts out 10%-25% more heat than Ivy Bridge or Sandy Bridge and draws more power across board even under idle this has been found to be the case for a 5%-10% performance increase
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/157125-haswell-review-intels-core-i7-4770k-takes-over-the-pole-position/3 .

yes the VRM's add alot of the heat but still also you need to factor in that in general most cant overclock the haswell because of chip limitations not just temps and when there are limitations on a oem stock clocked one where it downclocks due to thermal reasons on stock cooling and nearly does it on a corsair h100i i find that a bit telling as to why these are often refered to as a miniature nuclear reactor when attempting to cool them and keep temps in the safe comfortable range.

PLZ dont chime in about deliding the haswell not many will do this or take the risk the ones that do are in the single digit percentage range.

most wont take a razor blade to a brand new chip and risk nicking the PCB and ruining the chip and also plainly showwing you voided warranty also the other route often referred to as the vise and hammer method when anyone mentions a hammer and vise about any expensive / sensitive electronic component i get chills and so does most of the rest of people.

I take the above deliding methods ( the most commonly advised ways ) like a person advising slapping a 250hp shot of nitrous onto a brand new car it will likely turn out bad and cost you dearly either way.

because of the thermal issues and also the limitations within the general retail haswell yeilds most cant overclock past stock even when on higher end liquid cooling do you not see this as an issue and some are lucky to run at stock clocks without thermaly throttling.

im sorry i see this as a flaw when a CPU cant run stock clocks / settings on stock cooling without thermally throttling period which meens it downclocks and then you loose whatever benefit you got from purchasing the haswell over Ivy or Sandy and in most cases has been found to actually draw more power during idle and load than IVY or sometimes even Sandy.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/hardware/2013/06/06/haswell-heat/1 http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/382267/intel-haswell-hotter-and-slower-than-expected http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/report-intel-haswell-processors-prone-to-overheating/
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