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Poll Results: What would be the wisest investment for folding that I should save up for to compliment what I already have?

 
  • 0% (0)
    AMD FX-8350 (3 months)
  • 8% (1)
    Next generation AMD (? months)
  • 41% (5)
    Intel i7 cpu and motherboard (6 months)
  • 8% (1)
    Intel next generation (? months)
  • 16% (2)
    New AMD graphics card (4 or 5 months)
  • 25% (3)
    New Nvidia graphics card (4 or 5 months)
12 Total Votes  
post #1 of 31
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This is probably old news already but I couldn't find the answer to my question yet so I thought to start a thread and maybe get some new insight. The problem I have is I have been an AMD supporter for the past decade. I currently have 2 pc's. One is Ph2 BE965. The other is FX-8120. My disappointment is that a lot of times my 965 folds better than my 8120. I know... floating points and all. I understand that. Now I have a somewhat new gpu to me that is doing some halfway decent core17's on the 8120 pc designating one core for the gpu. Now I wanna decide what my next investment will be for folding and minimal gaming.

My ideas:

FX-8350 in 3 months
Intel i7 in probably 6 months (need mb and cpu)
or
new gpu (AMD or Nvidia - undecided)

Any improvements on the Piledrivers (8350?) that would make replacing my 8120 worth the investment? Will the next generation AMD be an am3+ that would be worth the wait skipping the PD?

If I got an intel i7 I would be saving for a more expensive cpu taking me longer to save by itself but I would need a halfway decent motherboard at the same time which would take me that much longer to save for. Again will there be a new generation Intel that I should be waiting for?

I am folding on a MSI GTX 560 Ti 448 earning core17 ppd and loving it. If I were to add a new gpu to either of my computers it would probably take me a time difference that would be in between the cpu brands. I think adding a new graphics card to either of my pc's would be a good folding addition but I couldn't use it for much more than that. While with a new cpu I have a few more uses for.

Any insight on these ideas would be much appreciated.
post #2 of 31
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post #3 of 31
Both GPU and CPU folding are important, so either way would be a good way to go. If you end up saving up for a new CPU, go with the 3930k, the extra threads help. If you go with a GPU, the GTX 580 is still king for folding, and im sure you could pick up some used ones here or on ebay for $250 or less. The GTX 580 will probably give you the best bang for your buck. Dont bother with AMD GPUs, they do have a little edge for gaming and are better price for performance, but they cant fold anywhere close to Nvidia cards.
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post #4 of 31
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Originally Posted by navynuke499 View Post

Both GPU and CPU folding are important, so either way would be a good way to go. If you end up saving up for a new CPU, go with the 3930k, the extra threads help. If you go with a GPU, the GTX 580 is still king for folding, and im sure you could pick up some used ones here or on ebay for $250 or less. The GTX 580 will probably give you the best bang for your buck. Dont bother with AMD GPUs, they do have a little edge for gaming and are better price for performance, but they cant fold anywhere close to Nvidia cards.

I will look up the 3930k and see what info and prices they come at. I don't know much about intel but it sounds like they are doing real good. I haven't had Intel since my Pentium III. Been AMD all the way since then. I have just switched to an Nvidia gpu a couple months ago and thought I made a good investment. Someone in the forums gave me a good deal on it. Probably best card I ever invested in. So I would be willing add another one. Still wondering if there is new generation Intels or AMD's cpu'sin the near future that I should show interest in. My luck I would save all this time for todays processors and a week later the latest and greatest is on the shelves. This happened to me at least 3 times. Invested in a Phenom II BE965 and as soon as I installed it the hexacore Phenoms II's came out. Bought the Crosshair V Formula motherboard and the Crosshair V Formula Z came out within the week after receiving the original CVF. I got the FX-8120 for my new board and one month later the Piledrivers came out.

Right now I am siding more with an i7 cpu but that would obviously comes at a higher price tag with requiring the motherboard needed to run on. I am sure my memory is good for the board. I don't know if it is possible but I would probably buy a used i7 and the mb I would probably buy new fully loaded. If I could have it my way I would like to purchase from the OCN sale/trade forum but seems like they go too fast. I am still asking for opinions from anyone like this one so I can make my choice wisely. If there is some of you that has no comment please at least cast your vote. Thanks.
post #5 of 31
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Dont bother with AMD GPUs, they do have a little edge for gaming and are better price for performance, but they cant fold anywhere close to Nvidia cards.
This isn't totally correct now with the new beta WUs. 7970s are getting ~50k PPD.
post #6 of 31
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This isn't totally correct now with the new beta WUs. 7970s are getting ~50k PPD.

Wow! has that happened within the last month? ive been deployed and havent been on much and this is the first im hearing about an AMD card being able to fold worth a damn
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post #7 of 31
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Wow! has that happened within the last month? ive been deployed and havent been on much and this is the first im hearing about an AMD card being able to fold worth a damn
Yeah. The new Core 17 beta unit is Open CL, so AMD GPUs can actually do something for a change. There's a thread about it here
post #8 of 31
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Yeah. The new Core 17 beta unit is Open CL, so AMD GPUs can actually do something for a change. There's a thread about it here

Is this going to be around for a while or is this just like most other betas that will go away soon? i enjoyed the beta that was letting my GTX 570s do about 50k each, but that didnt last very long.
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post #9 of 31
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Originally Posted by navynuke499 View Post

Is this going to be around for a while or is this just like most other betas that will go away soon? i enjoyed the beta that was letting my GTX 570s do about 50k each, but that didnt last very long.
Apparently, this is what the new core that will replace 15 will be like.
post #10 of 31
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Originally Posted by navynuke499 View Post

Both GPU and CPU folding are important, so either way would be a good way to go. If you end up saving up for a new CPU, go with the 3930k, the extra threads help. If you go with a GPU, the GTX 580 is still king for folding, and im sure you could pick up some used ones here or on ebay for $250 or less. The GTX 580 will probably give you the best bang for your buck. Dont bother with AMD GPUs, they do have a little edge for gaming and are better price for performance, but they cant fold anywhere close to Nvidia cards.

Oh man... Just did a little research on that 3930k. I knew things would be expensive but I didn't even realize. i7-3930K @ $570 is quite a bit out of my range. I can understand why it is the price it is with 12 threads and everything but I was hoping to spend that much for the cpu and motherboard. Thanks so much for your recommendation. Now since that is out of my range is there still an i7 that is still worth it or am I living in an Intel fantasy world? Should I be looking back at my alternatives? I need to stretch out a disability check as far as it goes. LOL.
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