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If you are set on the MSI, then go with the MSI - just trying to save you money here since the Sapphire is a good deal. I suppose if the inability to get a full waterblock makes it not worthy, then go with something else. However, almost all recent gen Video Cards can be Bios flashed now to increase overclocking potential.

I've heard good and bad things about the MSI OC, and also good things about the Diamond reference cards. I definitely want one compatible with a full waterblock.
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If the AX850 is only $136 on Amazon.com, then sure that's a hell of a deal. Corsair PSU's are great, just typically they are marked much higher than other units, which is why I gave you alternatives.

Exactly my thoughts, which is why I wouldnt pass it up.
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Yes, I'm only one person, but there are countless people on this board; even moderators. Who support and use ASRock products. There are only a select few who go around and bash them. Besides, I'm not saying that they are making up things, what I'm saying is they are pointing out useless and nonsensical information regarding their products. Information that might make people want to use another product, because of the fact that they pointed something out in the first place (then by word of mouth, it eventually gets to the point [like the game of telephone] don't buy ASRock motherboards because they "suck.") It's because the information itself doesn't prove to be factual in regards to the quality of their products, overclocking potential, company support, etc. etc. Just hey, look what we found, so stay away from them. If you want to jump at the UD5H over the UD3H, then that's fine as well. It's just that with a limited budget I don't see the point in spending more than you have to. If you want them MPower, go with it, it's a great board except it's still practically $200. If I was on a limited budget, it wouldn't be in my thoughts, but that's me.

Even though you aren't ready to spend about 200 on a mobo, the question would be - if you were, what would be your absolute choice, without the idea of getting something for -$140 thats "as good".
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I'll comment on the Keyboard first. Cooler Master makes great Mechanical Keyboards in the $100 range. Couldn't be happier with my Cooler Master Storm Trigger w/ Cherry Brown Switches ($105 on Amazon.com).

This keyboard looks nice
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MPower doesn't have VCore Offset, what does this mean? It allows voltages to drop when cpu is idling?
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Even though you aren't ready to spend about 200 on a mobo, the question would be - if you were, what would be your absolute choice, without the idea of getting something for -$140 thats "as good".

ASRock Z77 OC Formula. biggrin.gif
post #14 of 99
Honestly if you want the same performance for much less go with an i5 3570k, a Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H, Plextor M5S, Sapphire 7950 (3-5% slower than 7970 but far cheaper), the WD Blue WD10EZEX which is faster than the Black (WD's newest drive) and a 500W PSU (650W for Crossfire) like the Rosewill Capstone.

The i5 will be just fine for photo/video unless you're on a hardcore level and working with RAW video files etc. people tend to overestimate that.
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Even though you aren't ready to spend about 200 on a mobo, the question would be - if you were, what would be your absolute choice, without the idea of getting something for -$140 thats "as good".

The UD3H is:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1252290/z77x-ud3h-review-and-oc-testing-circuit-analysis-ln2-runs-efficiency-comparison/0_20
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Looks good except i wouldn't mind replacing the CPU with a 3570k in case this rig will be used purely for gaming, and save some money. But if you're set on it just for the heck of it i have no objections.

Replace the HDD with a WD Blue, the one with 1 platter only (someone can point out the model). Much cooler, quieter and performance is great.

For PSU i would look for something half that size, 500W or so. With one card only you can mess around with overclocks to your hearts content and 500W will suffice perfectly fine. The one in my sig is a good unit, but in case you don't have that available, other good alternatives would include rosewill capstone, kingwin, seasonic etc. the list goes on.

The rest looks pretty solid, although gaming won't require over 8Gb of RAM in a long time so you might want to swap that 16Gb kit to a 2x4Gb.
post #16 of 99
i like the build. it's the mobo that i don't understand.. it's has nothing more to offer more than the UD3H which is 140$. you can invest the saving in another SSD biggrin.gif. the 850W is not an pure overkill. if you go with the things you gonna do you will have like 100-120 Watts headroom. but if it's the same price as the 750 so what the heck. no problems.

however if you chose the mobo just cause it fits your build theme. i would respect that and give that build a 10/10
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the 850W is not an pure overkill. if you go with the things you gonna do you will have like 100-120 Watts headroom. but if it's the same price as the 750 so what the heck. no problems.

With the parts listed in the OP a 500W PSU would be fine.
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Honestly if you want the same performance for much less go with an i5 3570k, a Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H, Plextor M5S, Sapphire 7950 (3-5% slower than 7970 but far cheaper), the WD Blue WD10EZEX which is faster than the Black (WD's newest drive) and a 500W PSU (650W for Crossfire) like the Rosewill Capstone.

Personally, I'd prefer to keep the i7 3770k and 7970. I do a good amount of rendering and editing in photoshop (DSLR Photographer part time). According to http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_GHz_Edition/28.html the 7970, which i plan to flash bios to GHz edition, is pretty significantly faster, I'd like to stick with that.

Also, if theres only about a ~$30-35 difference between a MODULAR 500-650W and an 850W - I'll pay for the extra insurance. Afterall, I don't want my PSU load to be 100% so headroom is good.
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ASRock Z77 OC Formula. biggrin.gif

What makes this worth $230 to you, but the MPower not worth $190? MPower has one more PCI-E 3.0 and 2 more PCI-E 1.0, the OC F has 4 more Sata III 6gb/s.
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Replace the HDD with a WD Blue, the one with 1 platter only (someone can point out the model). Much cooler, quieter and performance is great.

When I first made this - the Black was only 79.99 on Amazon, no tax or shipping costs - which was $5 more than the Blue. But now the price has fluctuated so I may get the Blue Instead. 1 platter? The one with 64mb cache 7200rpms was the one I looked at.
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i like the build. it's the mobo that i don't understand.. it's has nothing more to offer more than the UD3H which is 140$. you can invest the saving in another SSD biggrin.gif. the 850W is not an pure overkill. if you go with the things you gonna do you will have like 100-120 Watts headroom. but if it's the same price as the 750 so what the heck. no problems.

however if you chose the mobo just cause it fits your build theme. i would respect that and give that build a 10/10

I figured if I'm spending this much, my build better look damn fine wink.gif. A lot of people advice against MPower apparently - and I still don;t know what offset overclocking is, which the MPower apparently doesnt have. Maybe I should list what I want in a mobo, all for a package of about ~$200, maybe more if its worth it.
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- Atleast 2 PCI-E 3.0 for future proof CrossFiring.
- 2-4 SATA III 6GB/s - cant see myself having more than 2-3 SSD's and from what I understand anything else on a 6GB/s is a waste.
- Good overclocking abilities, would like a 4.8GHZ stable on a i7 3770k
- Easy to use BIOS for beginner, but not something that will seem too dumbed down when I know what I'm doing.
- Fair amount of PCI Express x1 for soundcards, wireless(if it doesnt come with the board) etc
- Atleast 4 USB 3.0 on backplate
Will not be using
- MSata
- Esata
- Thunderbolt
- RAID anything
- PS/2 ports

Why can't manufacturers have a program where we design our own motherboard? biggrin.gif


Also, which manufacturer do you guys favor in terms of BIOS design and functionality?

WHAT IS OFFSET OVERCLOCKING?
Edited by newmindsets - 3/29/13 at 10:15pm
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From what I've heard, SeaSonic makes the most reliable power supplies. You could get a 650W for about the same price.

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What makes this worth $230 to you, but the MPower not worth $190? MPower has one more PCI-E 3.0 and 2 more PCI-E 1.0, the OC F has 4 more Sata III 6gb/s.

What makes it worth it to me because the amount of great reviews it receives:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/03/19/asrock_z77_oc_formula_lga_1155_motherboard_review/7#.UVNLgRxwo4w - Editor's Choice Silver Award

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6650/asrock-z77-oc-formula-review-living-in-the-fast-lane/9 - Editor's Choice Silver Award

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/asrock-z77-oc-formula_9.html#sect0 - Editor's Choice Award

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4943/asrock_z77_oc_formula_intel_z77_motherboard_review/index12.html - Editor's Choice Award

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/asrock_z77_oc_formula/12.htm - OCC Gold Award

It's just an all around quality board.

Plus it fits your wants accordingly:
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- Atleast 2 PCI-E 3.0 for future proof CrossFiring.
- 2-4 SATA III 6GB/s - cant see myself having more than 2-3 SSD's and from what I understand anything else on a 6GB/s is a waste.
- Good overclocking abilities, would like a 4.8GHZ stable on a i7 3770k
- Easy to use BIOS for beginner, but not something that will seem too dumbed down when I know what I'm doing.
- Fair amount of PCI Express x1 for soundcards, wireless(if it doesnt come with the board) etc
- Atleast 4 USB 3.0 on backplate
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