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If UD3H has all the connectivity/features you need then it is a superb board for the money. UD5H is somewhat "upgraded" version, mostly in terms of overclocking performance, but you would not be able to tell the difference in CPU+GPU overclocking on air/water. I think they added improved memory overclocking on it or something similar. I don't think the MSI board offers anything groundbreaking over the UD3H making it look a tad overpriced IMO.

In general people seem to forget that basic overclocking, mainly CPU+GPU, does not require a designated "ZOMG OVERCLOCKING" board. If roughly simplified, all it needs is a Z77 chipset and good pair of MOSFETs and you're good to go. Gigabyte UD3H offers just that without any weird gimmicks adding to the price.

Primarily what you should look at these boards is the connectivity and features you want.
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If UD3H has all the connectivity/features you need then it is a superb board for the money. UD5H is somewhat "upgraded" version, mostly in terms of overclocking performance, but you would not be able to tell the difference in CPU+GPU overclocking on air/water. I think they added improved memory overclocking on it or something similar.

UD5H and UD3H and similar except that the UD5H has additional connectivity and ALC898+headphone amp.

Now UD4H vs UD3H, the UD4H is more recent and supposed to fill price gap between UD3H and UD5H, it doesn't have the mSATA connector but it has 2 additional SATA ports, doesn't seem much different otherwise.
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UD5H and UD3H and similar except that the UD5H has additional connectivity and ALC898+headphone amp.

Now UD4H vs UD3H, the UD4H is more recent and supposed to fill price gap between UD3H and UD5H, it doesn't have the mSATA connector but it has 2 additional SATA ports, doesn't seem much different otherwise.

The UD3H and UD4H have no USB 2.0 - will this pose a problem? Also newegg specs say the UD4H has an ALC898 as well, but a review I saw said otherwise. Overall the UD4H looks attractive because I don't need mSATA at all, and more SATA 6GB/s is more welcome. You all say that this line of boards are very good overclockers, so with a watercooled rig I can't go wrong? 4.8GHz is planned under load. Also I like the looks of the UD4H over both of them much more. Thing is, I would need to buy wifi card addictionally.
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I swapped to UD3H to experiment with the offset voltage more than any other reason over the GD-65 - either would work fine for me, but I did not want to buy both, so returned the first one I bought and kept the UD3H - which was not bad enough to make me want to go back to the GD-65.

I also OC to 4.8ghz (stable) with the hyper 212 (one fan) ... but just put on the H100i to play with the water - sure does keep temps down more, and lets me go try 5.0ghz with temps not shooting past 95C on intel burn but not sure I see any change in what I do on the computer with the increased OC and not sure anyone can argue that if you hit 4.5 GHz - your machine is going to suck.

So its all a function of paying to play around with your system after you follow the "general advice" given on this forum ... and having fun is why your doing it ... what is your fun worth?

I'm also of the belief that a single graphic card system with $1500 is closer to smoking rather than a budget build ... but still new to boards.
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I swapped to UD3H to experiment with the offset voltage more than any other reason over the GD-65 - either would work fine for me, but I did not want to buy both, so returned the first one I bought and kept the UD3H - which was not bad enough to make me want to go back to the GD-65.

I also OC to 4.8ghz (stable) with the hyper 212 (one fan) ... but just put on the H100i to play with the water - sure does keep temps down more, and lets me go try 5.0ghz with temps not shooting past 95C on intel burn but not sure I see any change in what I do on the computer with the increased OC and not sure anyone can argue that if you hit 4.5 GHz - your machine is going to suck.

So its all a function of paying to play around with your system after you follow the "general advice" given on this forum ... and having fun is why your doing it ... what is your fun worth?

I'm also of the belief that a single graphic card system with $1500 is closer to smoking rather than a budget build ... but still new to boards.

I'm by no means calling this a "budget build" just that around $1500-1600 is MY budget smile.gif
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Any feedback on UD4H, and whether it actually has ALC 898 or 892?

Edit: Confirmed to have 892, Newegg is wrong.
Edited by newmindsets - 3/30/13 at 9:13pm
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post #37 of 99
Read the "Budget" wrong ...

When I bought my new plasma TV I was looking at over 15 of them on walls at the store and the guy was trying to show me "differences" that there is no way I would ever notice unless the tvs were side by side ... and so many other variables on top of the tv setting at the time that someone else provided ...

Bottom line is buy what you like - want - over some small difference you may never notice because most will forgot the small difference between costs but will never forget not getting that other option/look they really wanted.

I did not buy the suggested tv by the salesman ... but damn - I feel like I'm in my personal movie theater at home!
post #38 of 99
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Update:

Debating driving 140mi round trip for $229 3770k, buying online for $319, or buying 3570k online for $219.

Also the UD4H is looking good right now.

May be upgrading PSU to x850 for more headroom for Xfiring 7970s that I plan to OC.

Comments are welcome
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Update:

Debating driving 140mi round trip for $229 3770k, buying online for $319, or buying 3570k online for $219.

Also the UD4H is looking good right now.

May be upgrading PSU to x850 for more headroom for Xfiring 7970s that I plan to OC.

Comments are welcome

Assuming you don't live near the Microcenter in Paterson, which is why it's a 140mi round trip. Guess you have to consider whether or not your car get's good gas mileage and whether or not you are spending the $100 in gas. To be frank though, if you are only doing gaming 3570k is your best bet. The HT is not going to help give you better frames in gaming in all reality. Better off spending that $100 on a better cooler solution to be honest to push it to 4.8-5.0GHz.

UD4H is a good choice, inbetween the UD3 and UD5.

Seasonic X-850 is on sale right now for $139 off of Newegg. Can't beat that either.
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Assuming you don't live near the Microcenter in Paterson, which is why it's a 140mi round trip. Guess you have to consider whether or not your car get's good gas mileage and whether or not you are spending the $100 in gas. To be frank though, if you are only doing gaming 3570k is your best bet. The HT is not going to help give you better frames in gaming in all reality. Better off spending that $100 on a better cooler solution to be honest to push it to 4.8-5.0GHz.

UD4H is a good choice, inbetween the UD3 and UD5.

Seasonic X-850 is on sale right now for $139 off of Newegg. Can't beat that either.

Just noticed you're from Jersey! I live approx. and hour away, i would be spending about 40$ in gas. I plan to do gaming and photoshop(photography editing). I currently use a Late 2008 model Macbook Pro with an Intel Core 2 Duo. Don't know anything much faster so I imagine any of them will blow me away with the performance.

Also I believe that its $159.99 with a $20 rebate - which isn't really a sale. Is 850W enough to future proof for a dual 7970 setup, where both will be overclocked, with an overclocked 3770k/3570k?

And is this the same as the newegg model, because the connectivity ports are different:http://www.amazon.com/Seasonic-ATX12V-EPS12V-Power-Supply/dp/B004ETEFTK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1364709754&sr=8-1&keywords=seasonic+x850
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