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Originally Posted by adridu59 View Post

+1 to this

When I built my current rig I realized how bloatware antivirus were, so I'm free of those since then. Talking seriously.

I run an online scan occasionally and I often watch the task manager to see if something odd comes up but I've got zero viruses to this date.

Don't forget to go to msconfig and look over the startups after checking task manager smile.gif
I have Bitdefender but I am still overly protective if I feel something is off.
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I've been using MSE for quite some time now and I've never had any problems. Not once. If you know what you're doing on the internet there shouldn't be a reason for your system to be infected with something malicious.
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post #23 of 37
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MSE is garbage, bud.

I can confirm. Last night my dad walked into my room asking me if he should pay the "FBI Cybercrime Divison" fine for illegal downloading. Took one look at it and told him it was a virus. He was running MSE, I uninstalled it for him and put on NOD32.
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post #24 of 37
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Eh, I used to run without any AV for many years, and I didn't get any virus, but it's really just asking for trouble. Viruses can run as a service, so you wouldn't find it in your Processes tab in Task Manager, and also there are ways of adding itself to startup without it showing up in MSconfig.

So, anyways, now I'm running MSE, MBAM, and Spybot 2.
post #25 of 37
OMG!

All you had to do was restart in safe mode and run MSE. I've been using MSE since release and never had any issues.

Use two browsers:

Browser one = equals no java, no flash and block all third party cookies and prompt to accept first party cookies.

Browser two (Possibly running in a virtual environment with file sharing off) = no java, flash enable and block all third party cookies and prompt to accept first party cookies. Browser two, mainly for video watching...

I use three browsers. Third one is used for searching and visiting sites I feel cannot be trusted. All add-ons disable and max security settings in an isolated virtual machine. The virtual machine refreshes every 1 - 4 days depending on use.

Most malware infects a user's computer through java and flash exploits via ad servers. Just another reason to stop ads from showing smile.gif

The worst of the worst come from so called free software (Not all free software) and cracked software from torrents/others. I receive computers all the time for repair with malicious software. The top two malicious software types from free software (Not all free software) and cracked software from torrents/others are "Botnets" and "Keyloggers".

The top two malicious software types from browser add-on exploits (Flash and Java) are scareware and fraudware! Far as I'm concern these two are created or influenced by a handful of premium security software companies and used to scare computer users into purchasing premium security software (I do not believe all scareware and fraudware are created or influenced by security software companies, but I believe most are).

The simple truth is! If a person believes simply changing security software is going make them anymore safe, then they are sadly confuse and have a lot to learn about computer security threats and the economics of the software security business.

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Edited by bftdsolder - 3/25/13 at 12:00pm
post #26 of 37
I haven't gotten a virus since 2004 and I am an I.T. Engineer working for a firm with over 100 business clients. I also haven't used an anti-virus program since 2004. You get virus's because you go on shady sites or don't know what you're doing. Anti-Virus programs are for people who can't control themselves on the web or use shady p2p clients like limewire, it's really that simple.

I've made a lot of money off removing virus's from n00bs computers and they ask me what I use for an anti-virus I always reply with "I don't use one."
post #27 of 37
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Originally Posted by bftdsolder View Post

OMG!

All you had to do was restart in safe mode and run MSE. I've been using MSE since release and never had any issues.

Use two browsers:

Browser one = equals no java, no flash and block all third party cookies and prompt to accept first party cookies.

Browser two (Possibly running in a virtual environment with file sharing off) = no java, flash enable and block all third party cookies and prompt to accept first party cookies. Browser two, mainly for video watching...

I use three browsers. Third one is used for searching and visiting sites I feel cannot be trusted. All add-ons disable and max security settings in an isolated virtual machine. The virtual machine refreshes every 1 - 4 days depending on use.

Most malware infects a user's computer through java and flash exploits via ad servers. Just another reason to stop ads from showing smile.gif

The worst of the worst come from so called free software (Not all free software) and cracked software from torrents/others. I receive computers all the time for repair with malicious software. The top two malicious software types from free software (Not all free software) and cracked software from torrents/others are "Botnets" and "Keyloggers".

The top two malicious software types from browser add-on exploits (Flash and Java) are scareware and fraudware! Far as I'm concern these two are created or influenced by a handful of premium security software companies and used to scare computer users into purchasing premium security software (I do not believe all scareware and fraudware are created or influenced by security software companies, but I believe most are).

The simple truth is! If a person believes simply changing security software is going make them anymore safe, then they are sadly confuse and have a lot to learn about computer security threats and the economics of the software security business.

...

If you read my first post, I actually already did a scan with MSE already, but it didn't help. I had to use spybot to remove it. I think I got from virus from a java exploit. I know how to differentiate from fake cracks and real cracks, so i've never gotten any virii from that. I run adblock, so I doubt it would be from a flash ad.
post #28 of 37
I use Avast Free Edition. It has a lot of very good features considering it's for free. I especially like the free add on Browser Cleaner, that can remove those stupid Ask Toolbars, Babylon, Funmoods etc. I do support for various companies where I work, and those browser bars are a constant irritation. Avast get's rid of them no problem.
post #29 of 37
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Originally Posted by superbarnie View Post

If you read my first post, I actually already did a scan with MSE already, but it didn't help. I had to use spybot to remove it. I think I got from virus from a java exploit. I know how to differentiate from fake cracks and real cracks, so i've never gotten any virii from that. I run adblock, so I doubt it would be from a flash ad.

If you know how to differentiate from fake cracks and real cracks, then you know that is what I am not talking about. If I wanted to, I could put a piece of cracked software up with malicious code embedded in it and you most likely would never know about it. I can make it run when I desire and make it stop when I desire. I can make it do many things even track usage and activate when unexpected or activate and send info when your computer is in high usage mode, especially when gaming and utilizing high amounts of bandwidth. I can have it send little pieces of data and then have that data re-assembled, even from several different pints. Simply looking at a file size or file extension will only help differentiate between downloading a direct threat, but will do nothing to help differentiate between a piece of software with malicious code embedded in it.

There are a few different safe mode boot options. I know this type of malware and I have yet to have and any issues removing it or disabling it with MSE. If MSE did not disable it, then your MSE was out of date and you would need to start up in safe mode with networking enabled and update MSE. Then restart in safe mode with network disabled and run MSE.

1. 100% pointless to run Java or Flash in your main use browser!

2. The FBI Malware is not a virus, it is scareware / Fraudware...
Edited by bftdsolder - 3/25/13 at 12:46pm
post #30 of 37
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Originally Posted by Volvo View Post

MSE isn't the pinnacle of security but it isn't crud, either.

As always, MSE + MBAM would be a nice way to go.

MSE scans things faster, and MBAM is there to verify if its really okay when you're really panicky.

Exactly. A "layered approach" is always the best approach. MSE will catch things MBam doesn't and visa versa.
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