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I can confirm. Last night my dad walked into my room asking me if he should pay the "FBI Cybercrime Divison" fine for illegal downloading. Took one look at it and told him it was a virus. He was running MSE, I uninstalled it for him and put on NOD32.

My 74 year old pop used to get the "FBI Cybercrime Send us $200 via MoneyGram" virus/malware a half dozen times a month from surfing pr0n. LOL. He was running MSE on Windows 7 Pro. Since then, I've pulled MSE off and installed AVG Internet Security 2012 (paid version) and his infections are down to 5% of what they once were. My pop is a sucker for clicking on those "Your PC has a registry error, Click HERE to fix it!" messages that pop up in IE. You just can't quite knock him upside the head enough times to get him to stop. But, he tries, HEH.

I'm running AVG Internet Security 2013 on Windows 8 x64 and haven't had a single infection since Windows 8 got installed back in November. Not too much bloat in it's standard form.

I used to run Kaspersky, but in the last 2-3 years it's really bloated up and slowed down. Just my two cent's worth on that one.

Greg

p.s. Whenever I download crap off BitTorrent, it's in a completely encapsulated Windows XP environment running under VMware ESX. And when I've certified the download is good, then I move it out of the VM and onto whichever system needs the file(s). Infection rate off crap downloaded via BitTorrent has to be like 90% these days.
post #32 of 37
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Originally Posted by mrawesome421 View Post

Common sense, intelligent internet browsing and multiple backups for the win.

I'll take a virus over any resource hungry, constant background scanning crap-ware any day.

If I get a virus, it was fate telling me I need a reformat. tongue.gif

(this advice isn't for everyone, for obvious reasons)

Many viruses are designed to be stealth and you to never realize they are there, while they silently steal your sensitive information. Being smart isn't enough, because being smart won't stop a virus from taking advantage of an unpatched software exploit.
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Avast free has been great to me. I was using MSE, but then I picked up a virus through an ad that just destroyed my OS. Won't touch it again.

Same here.
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Many viruses are designed to be stealth and you to never realize they are there, while they silently steal your sensitive information. Being smart isn't enough, because being smart won't stop a virus from taking advantage of an unpatched software exploit.

Yeah, that what I was saying. I use to run without AV, but I realized that removing malware is not the hard part, it's detecting the malware that is the hard part.
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If you know how to differentiate from fake cracks and real cracks, then you know that is what I am not talking about. If I wanted to, I could put a piece of cracked software up with malicious code embedded in it and you most likely would never know about it. I can make it run when I desire and make it stop when I desire. I can make it do many things even track usage and activate when unexpected or activate and send info when your computer is in high usage mode, especially when gaming and utilizing high amounts of bandwidth. I can have it send little pieces of data and then have that data re-assembled, even from several different pints. Simply looking at a file size or file extension will only help differentiate between downloading a direct threat, but will do nothing to help differentiate between a piece of software with malicious code embedded in it.

There are a few different safe mode boot options. I know this type of malware and I have yet to have and any issues removing it or disabling it with MSE. If MSE did not disable it, then your MSE was out of date and you would need to start up in safe mode with networking enabled and update MSE. Then restart in safe mode with network disabled and run MSE.

1. 100% pointless to run Java or Flash in your main use browser!

2. The FBI Malware is not a virus, it is scareware / Fraudware...

I know what you are talking about, skiddies attaching RAT tools to legit files is a pretty common spread tactic. But like I said, I have never gotten infected from cracks/torrents/pirating and God knows I do that on a regular basis.

When I scanned using MSE, it was updated, and it didn't fix the problem.

I'd rather not go through the trouble of enabling/disabling flash at every few minutes or using multiple browsers for each task. I'd rather install a decent AV, and be done with it.
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MSE is garbage, bud.

I can confirm. Last night my dad walked into my room asking me if he should pay the "FBI Cybercrime Divison" fine for illegal downloading. Took one look at it and told him it was a virus. He was running MSE, I uninstalled it for him and put on NOD32.

Chances are if he had malwarebytes installed he would have been fine, as stated before having JUST MSE is OK, but pairing with an antimalware is better thumb.gif
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As a security professional I am going to have agree. MSE is one of the easiest "antivirus" to get around, get Avira or Avast if you want real protection for free.
MSE made my last job hard. I'm not going to be polite to it like everyone wants me to be.
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Many viruses are designed to be stealth and you to never realize they are there, while they silently steal your sensitive information. Being smart isn't enough, because being smart won't stop a virus from taking advantage of an unpatched software exploit.

I really don't care about that crap. This is 2013. There's been plenty of info from ALL of us taken by now and I don't think a virus is the one to be worried about regarding that as much as some other things. I would be more concerned with things like email providers, search engines, ISP's and retail software that phones home.

Some of the very things we use ever day online that we tend to believe are safe are the very things that are used to harvest our personal data. We don't call those virus's though. We call them "services". Some ppl do and would benefit from using an AV, but that's because they are very responsible with their browsing/downloading habbits.

Software exploits don't get patched with Anti-Virus's. And what good is one that allow's ten different virus's to intrude your machine and only catch's maybe one? No sir, you can keep that "comfort-ware". I call it that because it gives one the false sense of security.

I'll stick to common sense, intelligent browsing and multiple backups.
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