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post #21 of 30
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Originally Posted by Clowerweb View Post

Shouldn't be any cure time.

There is, as with a lot of TIMs.

As per the Artic Silver website; here
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Then the compound thickens slightly over the next 50 to 200 hours of use to its final consistency designed for long-term stability.

After which the temps will usually drop slightly more ( not much though, average ~1-2C in my case ).
post #22 of 30
^^^^ This.

AS5 definitely has a cure time, but don't let that scare you away from it. I've only seen 2-3 degrees difference between initial testing and a fully cured system weeks later. The thing I like about AS5 is the consistency. Not too thick, not too thin.

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post #23 of 30
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I just bought some mx-4, gonna try it out. I have used AS5 for years just gotta try something new.

I knew there was a cure time I just forgot how long it was.
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post #24 of 30
Prolimatech PK1 is the paste I have had the best results with, in fact it has never not given a noticeable improvement. PK3 is supposed to be even better, but I haven't used it yet (will be ordering some to try).

Others that have shown substantial performance over AS5 in my use are IC Diamond 7, Phobya HE-Grease, Antec Formula7, Tuniq TX4, MX4, and of course Coollaboratory LM PRO which I don't recommend due to the countless ways that it can kill things. Also, while the diamond compounds (IC + Antec) perform extremely well, they are abrasive and will remove the writing on your CPU IHS so keep that in mind; it does essentially lap your IHS and HSF though, and it does it better than can be done by hand because it keeps the bowed surface while finely polishing only the microscopic little hills and valleys in the metal of each where they contact, resulting in superior metal-to-metal heat transfer. If you do use one of them, use less than the size of a BB, because a big glop will negate this advantage by physically creating too large a barrier. Best results come when you remount after a while of use (month or three), use a terrycloth to "polish" off the diamond paste from each, use only a small amount if IPA to gently wipe the surface of each and remove the remaining visible paste (don't scrub), and then apply an extremely small amount of PK1 or another Top5 TIM and remount. This causes the little diamond dust particles to fill in any remaining voids, but removes any soluble filler (immensely increasing it's heat conducting ability), so when you remount the new paste only has a very small amount of surface area remaining which it has to work between while the amount of direct metal to metal contact is probably twice what it was, if not many more times greater.

I have done this many times, it's a variation of tinting that I thought up, and it's bar none THE most effective thing I've ever seen. Temp drops total (before using Diamond TIM to 24hrs after the remount with PK1) have been between 4 and 9C better than HE-GREASE or MX4. I have seen as much as a 13C drop compared to AS5 that was cured well...
   
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post #25 of 30
Tuniq TX-4.... I put some on my wife's i7-3820 and it was the most difficult paste I've worked with yet. Extremely thick, and if you try to spread it, it sticks to whatever you're using to spread it with and NOT the CPU. I won't use that one ever again. It must have some kind of metal phobic oil in it.

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post #26 of 30
I have also used prolimatech's pk1 on my processor compared to AS5 i noticed almost a 7 degree celsius difference on prime95 full blend test. Plus it was the easiest TIM to apply i used both X and pea size method and did not cause me any grief whatsoever. I also used it in my old XFX Radeon 5850 BE noticed about a 4-5 degree difference on idle temps plus i got some of it all over the video card and was not worried at all since its non conductive lol. I agree with hammong tuniq tx-4 is super sticky but i thought your suppose to heat it up under hot water before applying it?.
post #27 of 30
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Originally Posted by wooshna View Post

tuniq tx-4 is super sticky but i thought your suppose to heat it up under hot water before applying it?.

I tried the hot water trick the second time I used the TX-4, and while it did thin it out a little bit, it turned it into a stringy mess. Think "sticky snot" consistency, LOL. And it still wouldn't stick to the IHS properly. I think the heatsink-to-smoosh-the-TIM-out method is the only viable method to utilize with TX-4.


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post #28 of 30
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I tried the MX-4. I did 2 different applications pea and line method. Both gave same results. It's around 2-3* C hotter than the stock paste AMD puts on the stock HS/fan. Gonna get some AS5 and see what it does.
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post #29 of 30
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Originally Posted by hucklebuck View Post

I tried the MX-4. I did 2 different applications pea and line method. Both gave same results. It's around 2-3* C hotter than the stock paste AMD puts on the stock HS/fan. Gonna get some AS5 and see what it does.

Have you tried spreading it instead of just putting a blob or line? When I do mine I put a small amount on the IHS and spread it as thin as I can with a something like a razor blade or rigid, flat edge.
     
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post #30 of 30
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I did blob and line method.
I just put the AS5 in. It came out in like 2 different colors, not sure if it was mixed properly or started to separate? Tried it anyway and getting similar results as MX-4.
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