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Hello fellow OCERS! this is my attempt at a Budget Build i tried to keep it at the £500 mark but it was difficult....and i haven't even choose a case
its come to Total: £537.71, im a newbie at this so yea...input is welcome im running a 17" - 1280 x 1024. Purpose of the PC will be a little photoshop (nothing serious its a hobby) and gaming, im hoping to run WOW, LOL in full settings, and if possible higher demanding games like crysis 3 (doesnt have to be max settings) but a playable fps. The GPU i chose may be switched for the release of the gforce booster GPU (tommorow i think) unless anybody has a has a diffrent suggestion. edit the build if u think u can create a better build for the money im willing to spend.

sidenote...i may downgrade the i5 to a standard i5 rather than the i5k if its worth it? i dunno it doesnt seem much extra 2 pay for the overclockable version, but then again with the parts im using they may be too low end to take advantage of the overclock feature. oh ye it will be air cooled no watercooling smile.gif anyway try keep it any suggestions in terms ill understand altho im not total noobie im not hot on the hardware side of things tongue.gif thanks guys ill be awaiting ure replys!



http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/xdazx/saved/1nEX Budget Build 1

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/xdazx/saved/1nTY Budget Build 2
Edited by xdazx - 3/26/13 at 4:16am
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You surely prefer Intel while AMD is not bad at all, since you have a tight budget if you can spend near 600£ you will have great performance and better multitasking and multi-threading than i5 3570k while i5 3570k has better single-thread performance the FX 8350 is better for multi-tasking and games will use more and more core's and if you ever plan to streaming if you have a good internet connection FX 8350 will serve you well...

AMD Reliable Beast(Quality Components w/o DVD-R) link:
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/user/iamaloner95/saved/1nHi - 560£
^I hope you know to overclock, OC FX 8320 to FX 8350 clocks^

If you go with this build then later by the end of 2013 Steamroller will be out so you can upgrade if you want. Steamroller may have major improvements over Piledriver.

I know that in UK electricity/kilowatt price is higher than USA or in Croatia so if your parents don't have a very decent salary or you don't have it then go with Intel and don't upgrade to Haswell since the improvements from current informations are not that high over Ivy Bridge.

I hope this kinda helped.
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Yea i did take a look at that AMD cpu first but i dont hear much of a positive attitude from people about them, and yea i dont really want a machine thats going to eat up electricity tongue.gif +rep tho for the build i do like it smile.gif
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Yea i did take a look at that AMD cpu first but i dont hear much of a positive attitude from people about them, and yea i dont really want a machine thats going to eat up electricity tongue.gif +rep tho for the build i do like it smile.gif

There are far more people buying Intel than AMD so its "normal" that they trash AMD even thought they never had one or think its an some small brand with poor quality. AMD really kicked couple of times Intel's ass with Athlon's and Athlon 64's but management of AMD "shot them self in the foot" couple of times and Intel did illegal rebates, bribery and threats to OEM's since 1999 so it damaged AMD pretty seriously, Intel got fined and that but they crippled AMD seriously so now Intel is slacking off in reality and CPU innovation is slow or literally halted so there is not much of a progress there...

AMD makes great processors and graphic cards but they don't have the money for proper marketing and people are sometimes ignorant or not really informed and that's sad.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=701

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-3570K-vs-AMD-FX-8350

Anandtech mainly focuses in games that are mostly optimized for Dual Core processors so don't be suprised, some games just don't scale well for multi core processors.

Anyway FX 8350 power consumption is one third bigger than i5 3570 since it has 8 core's and its a 32nm processor compared to 22nm but if you go AMD then you can later upgrade to Steamroller that will be 28nm so less power consumption, TDP and considerable performance increase.

If you can find in UK Radeon HD 7790 then buy it, its faster than GTX650ti 1gb... With 7850 you can get two games for free(Tomb Raider and Bioshock Infinite, remember to register to recieve the code's). AMD's card have greater value and can perform well.

AMD is more future proof, Wii U has AMD's GPU while PS4 AMD's APU(CPU w/ GPU) and Xbox 720 could have something similar. Anyway FX 8350 will smoke out Ivy i5's when a game uses more than 4 core's, next gen consoles on PS4 and Xbox 720 will be 8 core wink.gif

If power consumption matters go with Intel even thought I wish you could get an i7 3770k so you don't need to replace it ultil 2017 max.
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More of vampirr's nonsense (be gone, troll!)

The i5-3570K destroys anything that AMD makes today and likely their next generation of chips as well since they're stuck on the primitive 32nm process until the end of time due to very poor financial and contractual planning. Hell, AMD even admitted that they were dropping out of the high-end CPU competition.

The motherboard you selected won't set world records or anything with overclocking that 3570K, but it'll certainly OC to the low 4.x GHz range without a problem. Just remember to get an aftermarket HSF like Cooler Master's Hyper 212 Evo.

On the GPU front, NVIDIA should be announcing their new "GTX 650 Ti Boost" card tomorrow, which will slot in between the original GTX 650 Ti and the 660. It has the CUDA cores of the 650 Ti and the 192-bit memory bus and clock speeds of the 660, and should be a good low-mainstream graphics card.

If you're going to get a budget Kingston SSD, get the SSDNow V300 instead of the V+200. It's much better that its predecessor.

You forgot to list a standard hard drive, the Western Digital WD10EZEX is a good choice for the 1TB range if you're not reusing the old one from your current rig.

The memory and PSU look good, and you might want to consider getting a DVD drive if you're not reusing the one from your old computer. Comes in handy for installing old games and such.
Edited by svenge - 3/25/13 at 3:21pm
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Watch this video, I found it on youtube... Its a compilation of benchmarks from various sites:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjCrlq2Lf5k

Advice, when you are looking at benchmarks from Anandtech, Tom's Hardware, [H]ardOCP be skeptical since its known they favor or bias to Intel. mad.gif

PS: read the comments in the video... biggrin.gif
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thanks guys and since its a budget build i didnt add the cd drive and 1tb HD i have plenty of dvd writers lieing around and a small HD to use for a week or two till i replace it with a 1tb, smile.gif, on that note id like to point out i have never overclocked i went with the K version of the i5 since it isnt much more than the normal i5, but for arguments sake if i did decide to look into overclocking would the power supply and the other parts be able to keep up still without problems? as for the ssd suggestion if its the same or around the same price i will take ure advice on board and switch smile.gif ive read a few of your posts on other peoples thread and u seem to know what your talking about so ill trust your judgement, if you could be so kind to post the build you would go for having around £500 to spend (little over is fine if u strongly feel the need to) smile.gif
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Opinions on this case? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sharkoon-T28-ATX-Midi-Tower/dp/B006MT5C9W/ref=sr_1_2?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1364291646&sr=1-2

what would anybody else suggest, side window is a must, bottom power supply
Edited by xdazx - 3/26/13 at 4:25am
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thanks guys and since its a budget build i didnt add the cd drive and 1tb HD i have plenty of dvd writers lieing around and a small HD to use for a week or two till i replace it with a 1tb, smile.gif, on that note id like to point out i have never overclocked i went with the K version of the i5 since it isnt much more than the normal i5, but for arguments sake if i did decide to look into overclocking would the power supply and the other parts be able to keep up still without problems? as for the ssd suggestion if its the same or around the same price i will take ure advice on board and switch smile.gif ive read a few of your posts on other peoples thread and u seem to know what your talking about so ill trust your judgement, if you could be so kind to post the build you would go for having around £500 to spend (little over is fine if u strongly feel the need to) smile.gif

OK, so you you want a i5-3570K, Z77 motherboard, aftermarket HSF, 8GB of RAM, a video card capable of 1280x1024 gaming, a smallish SSD boot drive, power supply, and side-windowed case for around £500? That's a rather tall order, given the pricing and taxation differences between the US and UK. Here's my closest approximation, coming in at £560:

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£166.79 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£16.09 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£79.32 @ Aria PC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£42.23 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£73.11 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card (£103.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Sharkoon T28 (Blue) (£44.60 @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£34.15 @ Aria PC)
Total: £560.28

Several things to keep in mind:

1) I really, really tried to keep the cost down as much as possible without crippling the final product. I know you wanted it at £500, but I just couldn't make it work.

2) The Corsair CX430 Bronze has more than enough juice for a GTX 650 Ti and an overclocked 3570K. I'd only get the CX500M if you really wanted modular cables.

3) I feel rather strongly that 120GB is the absolute minimum size for a SSD boot drive. The price/performance ratio gets progressively worse below that capacity, and you'd be surprised how quickly 120GB fills up.

4) To be honest I'm not much of a "case guy", and I have no experience with Sharkoon cases due to the fact they don't sell them in the US. From the reviews I read, it's a decent enough case but nothing special. Your requirement for having a side window really reduces the amount of choices in the budget price-point, obviously. I picked the blue version since it would match the motherboard I selected. A couple alternate cases would be Zalman's Z9 Plus and Z12 Plus.

5) According to Kitguru, the prices for the GTX 650 Ti should be dropping in the UK shortly, so keep your eyes out for that. Any suitably-priced model from ASUS, EVGA, Gigabyte, or MSI would be fine.

6) One last thing: If you have an extra few quid left to spend, I'd highly recommend the new GTX 650 Ti Boost when it hits the shops. The reviews of it say it's an excellent budget card, and the extra RAM and memory bus width really improve the performance over the original GTX 650 Ti.
Edited by svenge - 3/26/13 at 5:59am
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