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Hey Folks,
Having a weird (quirky) problem with my new build:

Assus z77 hd3
i5 3570K
8GB Hyper X RAM
6X cooler
120 840 Sam SSD
630w PSU
2gb 6950
Windows 7

I have a very good chip it seems, (will be making a post soon on my findings delidding experience), but ran into a weird problem.
Basically I am able to get a stable overclock at various multiplier/voltage settings, most of which seem very good. 4.5 @ 1.15 and 4.8 @ 1.3. But I find is that running WEI crashes the system (sometimes BSOD sometimes appcrash) if my volts are to low. However, prime95 and IBT prove it to be stable. Now I know WEI needs to be taken with a grain of salt, and is very rudimentary analysis, but it is interfering with my stability.
I thought it might be a F&^*&^$#ing AMD driver issue, so did a complete removal and installed windows drivers and same thing.
Here is the interesting part: more CPU vcore fixes the problem. So, I basically have two "stability walls" with conflicting voltages. One being prime95 and IBT, the other WEI crashing. NOTE: No other programs I've tried can replicate my crash experience like WEI.

Example:
49 @ 1.36 prime95 and IBT stable, but needs 1.42 to pass WEI

I've played a bit with Overvoltage and some of the video settings in BIOS (beacuse WEI USUALLY crashes during one of the video tests) to no avail.

Anybody else ever experience this? Any ideas... anything at all?

Thanks!
Kyle
Edited by Phantom NZXT - 3/25/13 at 10:51pm
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Someone on another board suggested I turn off virtu logic but mine is not enabled. The thinking was that the problem lies in how the voltage is being "distributed" by the CPU.
The theory was that when it comes time to amp up the voltage for the internal (CPU regulated) GPU Core it "stole" voltage from the other 4 cores and caused the crash. Now I haven't played with many of the CPU GPU settings, but I can't believe no one else has ran into this. Do you guys turn off the CPU GPU if running a discreet GPU? Do you think it's a PLL overvoltage issue? PLEASE Help!
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i5 3570K Delidded @ 5.0Ghz Gigabyte Z77-HD3 HD 6950 Kingston Hyper X - 8Gb 
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post #3 of 5
You could always post your bios settings with screen shot and upload here so we can double check your settings in case you missed something. xD

How long did you run Prime95 and IBT?
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If your using offset disable c3 and c6 if not you wilk have to increase voltage you need to run prime for 24hours also ibt is just for quick stability testing and max temps
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Totally figured this out, and now kind of embarrassed I missed this (seems so simple now). I disabled the chips internal GPU and wei quit crashing!!! Now I'm back to my normal stability testing.

Edit: busted open my chip tonight without a hitch! Applying ultra and going to slap it in the machine tomorrow!!!!
Edited by Phantom NZXT - 3/26/13 at 8:37pm
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