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They are not putting the VRMs on die, they need to stay on the PCB for delivering power to the CPU.
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This is what I was thinking of. If anyone wants a great in depth article about Haswell

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/cpu/intel/Haswell/Architecture/cachebw.jpg
Edited by Stay Puft - 3/25/13 at 4:23pm
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Ocaholic.ch has their pricing charts here:

 


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Ivy Bridge Model, Current Price, Haswell Model, Preorder Price, and Difference is listed in the column headings 1-5, respectively.
 
Surprisingly, they also have other information about the specific processors and details about them here:
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Obvious troll is obvious, and Intel has more troll than an episode of David the Gnome. biggrin.gif

It was already guessed, but lookie: 4770k doesn't have VT-d and the new TXT instructions, while the 4770 non-K has all the bell&whistles. Why? All the mobile models have all. Why u so cheap, Intel? mad.gif

If the 4770 non-K is similar to the 3820 and can be OC'ed, then I guess that's my boy. wink.gif
    
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Originally Posted by sherlock View Post

It isn't even that pretty now 22nm vs 32nm

Vieshera 32nm die size = 315mm^2 with no GPU, 1.2 Billion CPU transistors



Ivy Bridge 22nm die size =160mm^2 with a iGPU taking about 1/3 the die space, so the non-GPU part is roughly 107mm^2, 1.4 Billion CPU & GPU transistors.

After the production cost reduction pays off the 22nm fab, the cost of producing 22nm Ivy would be significantly less than 32nm Vieshera, that's not counting Ivy sells on average for much higher price on desktop & even higher prices on mobile parts(Vieshera have no mobile parts). Intel's revenue and margins(and as extension the R&D budget) are things AMD could never dream of matching due to this Die shrink advantage.

Intel is amazing... With the same die area as Vishera, they could put in 12 cores, 24 threads which will be almost 3x faster in the right workloads. WOW.
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Oh wow....a NEW PRODUCT being more expensive than its previous. Oh the irony. /sarcasm.

Seriously what did you guys expect? They would be fools to offer Haswell at the same price point or lower. rolleyes.gif
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let's wait for steamroller
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let's wait for steamroller

Isn't "Let's wait for (insert name of next AMD release)" the official mantra of AMD fanboys who can't cope with their underwhelming lack of performance?

When was the last time that AMD actually delivered on time something worth waiting for on the desktop?
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Isn't "Let's wait for (insert name of next AMD release)" the official mantra of AMD fanboys who can't cope with their underwhelming lack of performance?

When was the last time that AMD actually delivered on time something worth waiting for on the desktop?

 

Umm, all of their APUs.

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Umm, all of their APUs.

Meh. APUs are the Easy-Bake Ovens of computing.
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