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That was many years ago. Prices will obviously be lower with an Apu.

There is no disputing the price will be lower but 75% lower?

A quad core AMD apu goes for over $100 on the egg. While Durango's unit isn't the same, supplying an 8 core apu for a little over half that price seems to be a much better deal for Sony and MS than AMD.
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Of which approximately 300M$ was the bill for cancelled manufacturing volume from GF; not long term.


Not only did they pay the $320 million fine in cancelled manufacturing volume but at the beggining of the year the payed cash for the final seperation from GF. It was ballpark of $425 million i think but I think only half was payed this year, not sure about that though.
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By the end of ps4, wii u, and next box's lifespan, AMD will have been the premiere designer for gaming consoles for nearly 15 years. WII, 360, WII U, PS4, NEXTBOX with over 400 million total units sold is a really impressive resume. They are going to make a truckload from this and it will single-handedly sustain them into the next decade.

Yea... AMD aquired ATI in 2006 so since then they got money from Xbox 360 and Wii... Now they hold all next generation consoles and Sony will need a new handheld sooner or later in next three years and Microsoft could compete with Sony in handheld market and I think they will try to maintain some compatibility with their handhelds for their consoles so AMD will get even more money. Also I saw on Roy@AMD status:
https://twitter.com/amd_roy/status/315148545185431554

AMD will most likely kick Intel in laptop, hybrid tablet-laptops and some other devices thanks to APU's and in future their products based on HSA technology.
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There is no disputing the price will be lower but 75% lower?

A quad core AMD apu goes for over $100 on the egg. While Durango's unit isn't the same, supplying an 8 core apu for a little over half that price seems to be a much better deal for Sony and MS than AMD.

Companies throughout the last couple decades have resorted to figuring out ways to cut costs in order to maintain or increase margins, rather than increasing prices. These low costs mean that they can sometimes even offer lower prices and maintain the same margins. AMD is probably making around the same margin per unit as any console they have dealt with in the past.
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post #15 of 51
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They are going to make a truckload from this and it will single-handedly sustain them into the next decade.

That's assuming the next consoles last that long and are successful. There could be serious disruptions to the console space. iPads, tablets, smartphones, etc weren't nearly as prevalent as they were when the PS3 and 360 launched. And just look at sales of Wii U...they are abysmal. Granted, the Wii U is pretty awful in my opinion, but it would be unwise to assume other consumer electronics aren't playing a role in that console's failure.

Tl;dr - Don't put all your eggs in the console basket.
Edited by Gigatel - 3/25/13 at 3:43pm
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All AMD needs now is more advertising, and keep that healthy business deal flow going.

They have deals with MS, Sony and Nintendo, generating revenue. They have a platform that performs exceptionally well in x86 tablets, netbooks and ultrabooks. They have world's most powerful consumer IGPs, and world's most affordable 'high' performance x86 quadcore processors. They are also leaders in OpenCL technologies, and founders of HSA.

The APUs REALLY ARE the future. The world needs faster IGPs than Intel's anemic HD, and even GT2 parts can offer. Joe won't be too happy with gaming at 720p, everything at low, and getting clunky framerates, while his console works fine.

The world needs affordable quadcores, because software, especially at OS level, is shifting more and more away from single threaded tasks. And a dual core, is barely cutting it anymore.

And HSA will just make all of this even sweeter.


If AMD will really get 288M out of them, this year only... NVIDIA was just mad when they said it wasn't profitable.
   
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By the end of ps4, wii u, and next box's lifespan, AMD will have been the premiere designer for gaming consoles for nearly 15 years. WII, 360, WII U, PS4, NEXTBOX with over 400 million total units sold is a really impressive resume. They are going to make a truckload from this and it will single-handedly sustain them into the next decade.

Read AMD's 2012 10K filing with the SEC and get back to us on that...
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It is obvious that nvidia is looking at this from a different perspective. AMD can and will offer cpu and gpu,nvidia could only offer the gpu part anyway.
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I am laughing how Surface Pro has an i5 with an Intel HD 4000... AMD offers far superior technology with its APU and HSA.
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HSA extensions should resist Intel's restrictions on Kaveri's full potential. They already have superb power engineers working for them - idle power gating equalling Intel's superior lithography at a lower precision commands respect imo. And a fine innovation recycling clock frequency emissions should provide higher efficiency. As long as the memory interface can progress with adaptations to realtime gpu call's(which is AMD's area of expertise with JEDEC), they will have higher performance per watt eventhough they may not have highest compute per clock.
I just hope they could just once convince OEM's to match their full range with high bandwidth memory. AMD's lineup is not just "budget", they should be able to provide higher graphical computation per rival benchmark.
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