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Yes Nvidia is the great overlord that allows the little peasant AMD to exist. All hail Nvidia. I'll never understand why people get so caught up in brand wars, specifically in a market segment where the differences between he two products are so small.

Brand wars are retarded. I love amd, and I've always ran AMD chips simply because the price always fit in with my budget.

Same with AMD cards. I got a 7850, because at the time it fit what I needed for power and performance.

If intel chips were a bit cheaper, I would go ahead and rebuild my system with an intel chip. It's just not in my budget right now when I can just rip out my old 940BE and swap it for a 965BE and get higher overclocks for only 100 bucks.

Also, HIS cards are awesome.

I ran a crossfire setup with two HIS HD4830's overclocked to 720mhz I ran them for 4 years before I switched to my single 7850.

Only reason why I did that is cause I got a little extra cash, and wanted a little extra muscle for my system
Edited by Nenkitsune - 3/26/13 at 3:07pm
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Yeah by one game. You are such a joke man. Keep it going. I have my pop corn here tongue.gif

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No you are not wrong really, but it is pointless. That proves nothing since the regular 7950 boost also is the same as a stock 670. I'm still struggling to see the point you're tying to make. If I remember correctly you said that a 7950 needed to be overclocked to match a 670, your own benchmarks that you posted prove you wrong.

EDIT:

I should also note that the HIS IceQ X² boosts to 950MHz, the typical 7950 boost goes up to 925MHz. Not exactly a huge difference. Again the benefit of the HIS card is the cooler, not the factory overclock.

lol I know it sounds like i'm beating a dead horse, in fact every time i refresh this page and I see somebody responded to that old post, I think...."crap, i have to keep talking about that"

Just a question
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

what's the difference between those two bottom 7950's? the one at 32fps and the one at 36fps. Are they the same exact cards? Sold differently?
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Man some people take these comments way out of proportion. You see worse pricing wars with consoles, they are cut throat compared to what AMD/Nvidia do. I thin it's nice that those two companies at least do things with reasonable competition. Neither of them take extreme losses to push a product (like MS/Sony), don't see that changing either. Both companies are content with the income they get, both companies are still doing fairly well. it's not like one is being a tyrant, even though they could. AMD could be just as devious in the low end, forcing Nvidia out of the low and possibly mid range if they took a loss. It goes both ways, would rather somebody actually make that as a point instead of mocking the company. It gives off a poor image and also reflects on the board when people do that.

Ahh well, you'll see a person reasonably discuss (argue? I think you can have a reasonable argument/debate) and then just act stupid. Tis a shame we don't understand the joys of bouncing concepts off another person, expands the mind and helps it stay keen. =( Shame.
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Man some people take these comments way out of proportion. You see worse pricing wars with consoles, they are cut throat compared to what AMD/Nvidia do. I thin it's nice that those two companies at least do things with reasonable competition. Neither of them take extreme losses to push a product (like MS/Sony), don't see that changing either. Both companies are content with the income they get, both companies are still doing fairly well. it's not like one is being a tyrant, even though they could. AMD could be just as devious in the low end, forcing Nvidia out of the low and possibly mid range if they took a loss. It goes both ways, would rather somebody actually make that as a point instead of mocking the company. It gives off a poor image and also reflects on the board when people do that.

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you don't see nvidia/amd getting any cut of the 1,000's of games released on PC....however, they have to work year round to make sure every one of those games work.

One failed game and you've ruined your brand. I bet some engineers at NVIDIA worked wayy overtime to get Tomb Raider up and running
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Yeah by one game. You are such a joke man. Keep it going. I have my pop corn here tongue.gif

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Originally Posted by CaptainChaos View Post

No you are not wrong really, but it is pointless. That proves nothing since the regular 7950 boost also is the same as a stock 670. I'm still struggling to see the point you're tying to make. If I remember correctly you said that a 7950 needed to be overclocked to match a 670, your own benchmarks that you posted prove you wrong.

EDIT:

I should also note that the HIS IceQ X² boosts to 950MHz, the typical 7950 boost goes up to 925MHz. Not exactly a huge difference. Again the benefit of the HIS card is the cooler, not the factory overclock.

lol I know it sounds like i'm beating a dead horse, in fact every time i refresh this page and I see somebody responded to that old post, I think...."crap, i have to keep talking about that"

Just a question
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

what's the difference between those two bottom 7950's? the one at 32fps and the one at 36fps. Are they the same exact cards? Sold differently?

the 7950 boost is clocked higher
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^Yup. When the 7970 and 7950 were first released they were clocked very conservatively. The 7950 Boost just boosts the clocks higher.
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Brand wars are retarded. I love amd, and I've always ran AMD chips simply because the price always fit in with my budget.

Same with AMD cards. I got a 7850, because at the time it fit what I needed for power and performance.

If intel chips were a bit cheaper, I would go ahead and rebuild my system with an intel chip. It's just not in my budget right now when I can just rip out my old 940BE and swap it for a 965BE and get higher overclocks for only 100 bucks.

Also, HIS cards are awesome.

I ran a crossfire setup with two HIS HD4830's overclocked to 720mhz I ran them for 4 years before I switched to my single 7850.

Only reason why I did that is cause I got a little extra cash, and wanted a little extra muscle for my system

Exactly. I almost always used Nvidia hardware, not because I was in love with Nvidia but it usually fit what I wanted or I wanted to check out features like Physx. This time around I decided to go with a 7950 since it seemed a better value and I was itching to upgrade. In the end I'm extremely happy with my purchase and I'll pick my next card based on its performance and price, not on its brand.
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then you miss out on the $75 deal with the 650 ti boost.

as far as which is better, $75 coupon or bioshock, is in the eyes of the purchaser. Again, in the long run (like 2 months out when bioshock is forgotten, the 650 Ti will perform better in other games (looking a Bf4 in the future).

also, the 650 ti can max any game out and still get between 30-40 fps. sometimes more (except for crysis 3)

if you game at 1650x1050, even more attractive buy

obviously nobody expects these cards to work with 1440p and above

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Why would you compare it to the 7850? It's priced directly to counter the 7790.

2GB 7790 = $170
2GB 650Ti boost = $170

1GB 7790 = $150
1GB 650Ti boost = $150

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650 Ti boost compares to the 7790 as they're 10 dollars apart on newegg.

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a 7850 :/


Haha,actually this release caused the price of 7850's to go up $10.This morning there were 8 2GB 7850's for $179,all with Bioshock+TombRaider. Now this afternoon they raised them $5 to $15.What does that tell you?
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Haha,actually this release caused the price of 7850's to go up $10.This morning there were 8 2GB 7850's for $179,all with Bioshock+TombRaider. Now this afternoon they raised them $5 to $15.What does that tell you?

How do you know that it's correlated with the 650 Ti Boost's release? It could just as easily be linked to the announcement that AMD is discontinuing the 1GB 7850 and they want to have greater pricing separation between the 2GB 7850s and the newly-announced 7790...
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Haha,actually this release caused the price of 7850's to go up $10.This morning there were 8 2GB 7850's for $179,all with Bioshock+TombRaider. Now this afternoon they raised them $5 to $15.What does that tell you?

they're probably banking in on all the attention they're getting.

just like when whitney huston died, sony raised the prices of her CD's
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you don't see nvidia/amd getting any cut of the 1,000's of games released on PC....however, they have to work year round to make sure every one of those games work.

One failed game and you've ruined your brand. I bet some engineers at NVIDIA worked wayy overtime to get Tomb Raider up and running

Well said! Which allows me to go back to job security, for all the work they do that doesn't bring in commission they need to keep products spaced evenly. It keeps a balance, where as consoles don't have that issue. Yeah MS kind of supports that for free, kind of.... Ads and cuts from the store help them, where as these companies don't get crap. So I suppose that might also be why they are less cut throat about it, seeing as they are both on the same boat. Neither one wants to see the other go under, having somebody who can at least keep up in price/performance is good. Even if I believe Nvidia is somewhat better, I do not think AMD is any lesser. It's all a part of equilibrium, they need each other and Nvidia needs AMD to be good.

Anyways, I'd love to see prices on high end go down but that really doesn't help us all out. Sucks, just how things go.
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