Originally Posted by StayFrosty
What an Nvidiot.
Originally Posted by bencher If a overclocked 7950 can match a 7970
. THen ity has no problems beating a 670 or matching a 680.
Originally Posted by CyberWolf575
Holy hell that OC. The highest I was ever able to get mine to was 1300, but at that point it was more for just running a benchmark. It couldn't run that way 24/7. But I am still very happy with my 1240/1750 OC. I can beat pretty much every stock 680, unless it's a game in which AMD just performs poorly.
I'm not responding to these individually because the first two obviously put a lot on that bold section. IF a card can overclock, that's a huge if considering most cards don't get much more than 1150 on air from what I can tell. 1200 tops on the average good OC, even then you aren't beating an OC'd 7970/670 but whatev. I left the 3rd quote in to show you what happens IF a 670 can overclock well. I think that covers it nicely does it not? Some games prefer some cards, I won't deny that one. I'm just saying performance for what you get, will favor Nvidia in most markets. They have a larger dev team, longer practice, it's not really fair to have them compete head to head directly.
I consider all markets too, AMD has pushed ATi drivers in Linux extremely well. I just think it speaks quite a bit when I just bought a 7950 and used the "latest" drivers, official and beta, only to get 300 pts less in Linux than windows for Valley. The kicker? AA was off in Linux, I'd get 1/2 (or less) the score if it was on. What does that say about driver compatibility? I'd gladly run other Linux benchmarks to justify that but I highly doubt it is one of those random instances.
So with that, I'll say AMD still has work to be done. I bought the card because I believe they have gone a long ways. I do regret buying the card and not getting a 670 but the price for what you get, it does beat out Nvidia hands down. And no, I wasn't that serious about a 660ti. I would defiantly have the 7950 I just bought over a 660ti, just if I had the money I would rather get a 670 over this. So put your faith in Ifs, I won't.
Stock for stock, we know the answer. So IF each card can OC by the same percent, the answer should be obvious. Not saying a 7950 is a bad card, I bought one for the reason that it's amazing at the price. I also can't say how much they could improve driver performance, just what I've experienced is one team is better than the other (generally). So in a couple months, you might see those benchmarks get drastically better. You may already have reviews that "prove" this. I can also get you the same stats for Linux, showing one team DRASTICALLY under performs. Which does reflect on their driver ability, either way pricing speaks well. One company still has a general edge on the other, in the market of high end products. Until you see Nvidia slash the 670/680 prices by a decent margin to "compete", you know who is better. It's business, I won't deny that. They also develop CUDA/Physx and from what I've herd, are a lot quicker to respond on the dev side (and support is generally better). Also says a lot about a company, however they don't have to compete with Intel. Which sucks because that competition is going to take away from the GPU competition, which I'm sure AMD already knows they can't keep up hence the huge push for APUs to win over both markets at the budget end.
Anyways, I'm not a fanboy or I wouldn't have bought a 7950. Trust me, I wouldn't. I bought an Ibanez over a Fender, cause I personally think Fender is terrible even though I could have gotten a guitar cheaper. Not worth it, Fender blows. All my purchases are generally slanted and biased, this time I decided to have an open mind and give AMD a try. Mainly because the Never Settle Bundle made me think "why not, can't be that bad". In the end, it was that bad. Linux performance is god awful compared to Windows, which hits me hard as a Linux user. So I have distaste, however if you don't use Linux the card is absolutely the best buy for the money. I'll stick with that since currently no card offers enough performance to justify spending the money you would on something else. It's the best all around priced card, take that as a fan boy comment or whatever. IDC, I base my ideals with the experiences I have with a product.