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Ballz, I bought my 7950 two weeks ago.
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If you were to hold a survey of those that would rather have the AMD free gaming bundle, or the nvidia F2P crap you'd more than likely see overwhelming results in favor of amd. I don't know a single person that plays anything F2p. Usually those games are trash.

They're getting better but honestly, i don't know anyone who would prefer ingame credit on a F2P game over AAA games. Nvidia should've opened up an offer similar. Hell at one point they had BL2 and AC3 bundled.
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Game bundles are of no concern to me. Most of them nowadays are Steam codes, and I don't use Steam. Otherwise they are simply games I probably wouldn't play anyway. Last game bundle that influenced a purchase decision of mine had Heretic 2 in it...

I would vastly prefer paying a few bucks less on hardware, and getting nothing but the hardware.
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Game bundles are of no concern to me. Most of them nowadays are Steam codes, and I don't use Steam. Otherwise they are simply games I probably wouldn't play anyway. Last game bundle that influenced a purchase decision of mine had Heretic 2 in it...

I would vastly prefer paying a few bucks less on hardware, and getting nothing but the hardware.

Can't argue there either honestly. I like the games but lower prices are just as good if not better as you said. Like i said would've loved for the 670 to come down to 300$.
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Game bundles are of no concern to me. Most of them nowadays are Steam codes, and I don't use Steam. Otherwise they are simply games I probably wouldn't play anyway. Last game bundle that influenced a purchase decision of mine had Heretic 2 in it...

I would vastly prefer paying a few bucks less on hardware, and getting nothing but the hardware.

I agree i would prefer paying less for a card.

I sold my games and made money though thumb.gif
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Pff, they've only dropped the prices of the 650 Ti and 660 so far, nothing good yet.

But AMD has the cheaper cards still, and with the free games included it's no doubt NVIDIA is selling less cards than AMD.

Indeed, I want a cheaper GTX670. The difference between the mid and high range cards will be too big. With this move AMD is getting the big up in that range as well.
 
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If you were to hold a survey of those that would rather have the AMD free gaming bundle, or the nvidia F2P crap you'd more than likely see overwhelming results in favor of amd. I don't know a single person that plays anything F2p. Usually those games are trash.

The whole point if the F2P bundle is to sell GPUs to people who like playing F2P games. NV obviously already has the average gamer in their bag looking at the steam surveys, they don't need to worry about offering a bunch of games if their GPUs are already being bought.

If you don't know anyone who plays F2P games then you probably don't know any real gamers. The F2P market is much bigger and better than it used to be, it's not all asian P2win MMOs. Nowadays you have Planetside 2, Tribes ascend, World of Tanks, Hawken, LoL, Dota 2, HoN, Gotham city impostors, TF2 + pretty much all MMOs etc.

TF2 having more players playing than BF3 ought to tell you something about the playerbase behind free to play games. Or how about Dota 2 having 7 times as much players playing as BF3. Or how about LoL having over 12 million daily players.

Nope, no one plays F2P games and they're all crap.
 
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How can you define something by it's OC ability and then not even define the teir above as having that same quality? Especially if they are binned from the same process? A 7950 is a 7970 chopped up. Do 7970s not overclock to have performance above a 7950 OCd? That's my point. And my card does perform on par with a stock 670/7970, I'm just not stupid enough to say those cards aren't better. They OC too, with the same chances of performance gain as what I got. It's called being real, saying one product can beat another product hands down off a random variable, that's asinine.

So I say again, the product is solid for the price and you will get performance out of it. Just don't be foolish and believe your card has more potential than another card based off random variables. Just sayin.

at the same clock HD 7970 is 3 - 6% faster than HD 7950. same as GTX 680 wrt GTX 670. the Tahitis generally have a max clock of 1.3 - 1.35 ghz on custom air / water cooling. the Keplers have 1.4 - 1.45 ghz if you consider unlocked voltage on GTX 680 Lightning. the average overclocks with voltage tweaking are quite similar for the HD 7950 boost and HD 7970 Ghz . these chips with stock voltage of 1.25v can overclock to 1150 -1200 mhz. few chips do 1200+ but they are not so common. Also the Tahiti chips are faster than Keplers at the same clock. on average overclocks of 1150 -1200 mhz for Tahitis compared with 1250 -1300 mhz for Keplers , Tahiti cards win more games than lose. these are facts.

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/his_radeon_7950_x_iceq_review,1.html
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While it holds true that AMD drivers are becoming better and better this last year... This holds true for the most part on one screen and at most two cards.

Everything more then that and I tip my hat off to Nvidia.
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How can you define something by it's OC ability and then not even define the teir above as having that same quality? Especially if they are binned from the same process? A 7950 is a 7970 chopped up. Do 7970s not overclock to have performance above a 7950 OCd? That's my point. And my card does perform on par with a stock 670/7970, I'm just not stupid enough to say those cards aren't better. They OC too, with the same chances of performance gain as what I got. It's called being real, saying one product can beat another product hands down off a random variable, that's asinine.

So I say again, the product is solid for the price and you will get performance out of it. Just don't be foolish and believe your card has more potential than another card based off random variables. Just sayin.

I'm not defining anything by its OC potential. You were the one that said you had to push your 7950 to even compete with the 670. That simply isn't the case. You also said that comparing the cards is simply madness. Also not the case.
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