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post #11 of 40
Take a look at this http://watercool.de/en/heatkiller-gpu-x
Says here it only supports 7970, I have the same issue just ordered a reference 7950 "HIS HD 7950 3072MB" and for the life of me can't find any full cover water blocks for it. mad.gif
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Yeah, I assume that this, would work for when I get a new set of blocks?
Rightfully by law I will, I'll make a big deal about it if they don't.

EDIT: Looks like they will from pictures, it has the required space for the extra row of caps on reference 7950 cards.

I've seen pictures of your card's PCB around the WEB and it isn't reference HD7970 design.

Post a photo of your CARD PCB and I can tell you right away if it is reference HD7970 PCB design or not.
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Take a look at this http://watercool.de/en/heatkiller-gpu-x
Says here it only supports 7970, I have the same issue just ordered a reference 7950 "HIS HD 7950 3072MB" and for the life of me can't find any full cover water blocks for it. mad.gif

What is the exact model number of your HIS HD7950? HIS does make a reference HD7970 PCB designed HD7950. Post some photos of your PCB if you need help identifying what it is.


Also if you read a little bit more on that WEB site you can find a .pdf download sheet for the Heatkiller GPU X3 HD79X0 block and it does in fact list it being compatible on reference design HD7950.

http://watercool.de/sites/default/files/downloads/MA_GPU-X3_79X0_A5.pdf

I have one of these blocks on my Sapphire HD7950 950mhz Edition which is built on reference HD7970 PCB desing and it fits and performs like a champ.

My HD7950 with the reference design HK GPU3 HD79x0 block.




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post #14 of 40
This is the exact model H795F3G2M listed on coolingconfigurator as a reference card. That pdf lists as 7950 old ref which is the 8+6pin PCB (like your pic) not new ref which is 6+6pin PCB
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This is the exact model H795F3G2M listed on coolingconfigurator as a reference card. That pdf lists as 7950 old ref which is the 8+6pin PCB (like your pic) not new ref which is 6+6pin PCB

Your card is definitely not reference HD7970.

Looking at photos of it at cooling configurator you can see the PCB desing is very different than a HD7970 PCB.

http://www.coolingconfigurator.com/step1_complist?gpu_gpus=604

If this card is yours then these blocks should fit.





http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=34383


http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=33688
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post #16 of 40
I know my card is not ref 7970, that's why I said reference 7950 biggrin.gif the issue is actually finding a full cover block that is in stock and ships to Ireland and fits ref 7950 (2*6pin power) ah talk about confusion hahaha
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Who told you they'd fit a 7950?


You know, technically 7950 reference design was supposed to be a 7970 pcb! But lst minute AMD changed the design to what is now considered the reference 7950 pcb. This obviously is a change from the Cayman which shared the same pcb as well. Technically xspc's page is correct. But did you have someone direct you to that conclusion?

The XSPC page AND the store page had "Compatible with reference 7970 and 7950 blocks"

I'll link you to both..

Store link, notice how it says reference only?
XSPC, notice how they say the same thing?

I understand that the store pretty much copies it and that he has no idea. But XSPC should have known, I did my research to find out that I have "reference 7950" cards. (The coolingconfigurator states that) the PCB layout states that, a review site had a block on the HIS card and stated that because it is reference they can do that, they both have the AMD logo on them. I can run reference BIOS' on them fine too.

To me that makes me think it's 100% reference and upon reading "Works with AMD reference only" makes me think that it'll fit. I did not know that AMD changed it at the last moment, I can see that the 7970 has less capacitors (hence why it fits better) - Cheaper capacitors added together? Anyway I still think I should get my money back because that is false marketing on XSPC's behalf.


I'm not sure you understand. XSPC like Ek, etc get advance samples of the pcbs. BEFORE RELEASE, the 7950 pcb used a 7970 pcb. HOWEVER, last minute AMD changed the design to a wholly different pcb which is now known as the current 7950 reference pcb.

That aside, the onus is still on you, the consumer to do a visual match and purchase a product that fits. YOU CANNOT take anyone's word on the matter. Had you done a visual match of your pcb in hand with that of a reference 7970 pcb, you would know that they are different.

Guys, this is watercooling 101, don't buy anything w/o being fully confident in your choice because it falls on you to be your own advocate.
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post #18 of 40
sorry if hijacking thread but I also feel it might help the OP, I knew what I was getting but didn't release the shortage of blocks

Can anyone link to sites that has full cover blocks for ref 7950 (2*6pin power) in stock.

Cheers
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sorry if hijacking thread but I also feel it might help the OP, I knew what I was getting but didn't release the shortage of blocks

Can anyone link to sites that has full cover blocks for ref 7950 (2*6pin power) in stock.

Cheers

I gave you 2 links above from PPCS. Not sure if they ship to Ireland though. Good luck.
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This is the exact model H795F3G2M listed on coolingconfigurator as a reference card. That pdf lists as 7950 old ref which is the 8+6pin PCB (like your pic) not new ref which is 6+6pin PCB

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Originally Posted by iknownothing View Post

sorry if hijacking thread but I also feel it might help the OP, I knew what I was getting but didn't release the shortage of blocks

Can anyone link to sites that has full cover blocks for ref 7950 (2*6pin power) in stock.

Cheers

It's cool, that Heatkiller looks like it'll fit, there are also a few EK blocks that will fit it specifically.
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I'm not sure you understand. XSPC like Ek, etc get advance samples of the pcbs. BEFORE RELEASE, the 7950 pcb used a 7970 pcb. HOWEVER, last minute AMD changed the design to a wholly different pcb which is now known as the current 7950 reference pcb.

That aside, the onus is still on you, the consumer to do a visual match and purchase a product that fits. YOU CANNOT take anyone's word on the matter. Had you done a visual match of your pcb in hand with that of a reference 7970 pcb, you would know that they are different.

Guys, this is watercooling 101, don't buy anything w/o being fully confident in your choice because it falls on you to be your own advocate.

Yes, but I didn't know that at the time. When a consumer sees that "AMD 7970/7950 reference" you expect it to fit on a "Reference 7950", it's not just down to us checking. It said that it would fit a reference card and as far as I know my 7950's are reference. I understand where you're coming from but to the point of the consumer it's not fair to sell something as it's not.

Which is illegal if I don't get a refund at the least.
 
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