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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231593

Better bin.

One thing, remember that you need a strong imc in your cpu to even boot at stock clocks (2666mhz multi).
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Team Xtreme Kit is HALF the price though biggrin.gif
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231593

Better bin.

One thing, remember that you need a strong imc in your cpu to even boot at stock clocks (2666mhz multi).

How would I even know if I have a good IMC? I'm at 4.8Ghz on my ivy bridge. Would the 2666mhz affect my OC'ing abilities? Make things less stable?
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I see they are $540 on Newegg.ca now!eek.gif I bought mine when they were like $335.biggrin.gif
Hey, thanks for your post and that link, it's pretty helpful.smile.gif

They did jump up pretty good. Jacksonn24 was nice guy & sold me half of his quad channel kit when there were none of the c10 kits to be found. They are considerably better than my 2600 c10 gskills.
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No sweat...I urge you guys to try memtweakit. Just tweaking the secondary and tertiary timings with "stock" primaries makes a WORLD of a difference performance wise.

As for the stability testing I favor IBT and Superpi 32m, Hyperpi 32 is said to be good but I'm normally fine with IBT max memory and superpi 32m when I need to bench with that config.
48hs folding stable after doing an ibt run and cinebench. thumb.gif

Memtweakit is very useful, most of the timings can be changed right in windows to find the best combinations, & see the right timings for boards that show the default timings for 1600Mhz in the bios, while the ram might be 2600mhz with much different timings than shown.
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Hmm well I guess I will invest some money in a good set of RAM. When I built my rig I just thought that RAM was RAM, given that I got at least DDR3 1600, but I guess not. I didn't even realize that RAM could be overclocked until recently.

I see that these are $175: http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Dominator-Platinum-PC3-21300-CMD8GX3M2A2666C11/dp/B009YOJ8LU

1600Mhz memory was the standard go to kit in x58 days. Sandy bridge was IMC limited so there wasn't much point in getting memory that clocked much past 2133mhz, but ivy likes the speed. I wouldn't recommend memory that couldn't do at least 2133mhz, & it just gets better when faster. Many gamers still say they see little difference, but kinda looking like gaming is about the only thing that doesn't benefit from better memory. There is a thread now that shows good improvement in games with faster memory, it doesn't really improve the FPS, but has some positive impact on the minimum FPS.
Benchmarks still show the biggest difference, if benching, an expensive kit is much more worthwhile.

Not sure which ICs that kit uses, but think it would be hynix. Great for high clocks, doesn't hold tight timings as well as the top bin samsung, still very good memory.
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Team Xtreme Kit is HALF the price though biggrin.gif

Hynix vs. samsung, depends how important timings are to the buyer. The 2666 c10 kit probably does 2800 c10, where the hynix 2666 c11would likely need at least c11 to post that speed.
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2666Mhz is a tall order for any cpu. Pushing High memory overclocks will make your cpu need more voltage for the same OC.

You could get this 2400Mhz cas9 set for $100. This speed is more likely to be reached 24/7 with your cpu.

G.SKILL Trident X Series 8GB 2400Mhz
    
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2666Mhz is a tall order for any cpu. Pushing High memory overclocks will make your cpu need more voltage for the same OC.

You could get this 2400Mhz cas9 set for $100. This speed is more likely to be reached 24/7 with your cpu.

G.SKILL Trident X Series 8GB 2400Mhz

That kit is pretty easy to recommend, decently binned samsung, it will do 2600mhz + if the cpu can, & reasonably priced.
    
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The ram won't make the cpu need more vcore, but may make you increase vccio and vccsa a bit (not really needed normally though, unless you're running 4 sticks)
I can boot at 2600mhz which is the max of my imc, with stock vccio and vccsa and 2 sticks. 4 sticks needs moar, but 2600mhz is a no go.

Team Xtreem makes fine ram, like Avexir, but they are harder to find.
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So even if I bought RAM that was 2666Mhz stock it would make my processor work harder? What would you recommend for a 3770k at 4.8ghz? I'm a little confused about all of this.
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So even if I bought RAM that was 2666Mhz stock it would make my processor work harder? What would you recommend for a 3770k at 4.8ghz? I'm a little confused about all of this.
No. It's just that you're stressing the IMC to it's very limits
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If the integrated memory controller is not strong enough, it won't boot at the stock 2666mhz settings.
Simple, max memory clocks depend on both the ram and imc, if the ram is rated for 2666mhz but the imc can't run that it won't boot or might need a vccio and vccsa boost.
Most of the time you get a code 23 error in your mobo display if it's an MVG/F/E. That means the imc can't handle it. It's hard to find a chip that's both good with vcore and imc capabilities, hence the binning craze. Code 55 on the other hand may mean poor cpu contact with the socket or most likely ram needs more juice or just can't go further.
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