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Hi

I just got me my new mouse yesterday. The RAT 7. Was it a good choice? And is there anyone than can help me tweak it to better my battlefield 3 experience. Im more wanting to be able to use scroll on mouse for weapon selection. And the target button i would like to use to switch a specific dpi mode on and off , for sniping example or slow accurate responses when moving.

Thanks for Help and hope this is right thread to for this topic.

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It depends on you whether it is a good choice or not. Does it have all the features you would want, and is it comfortable to use? Those are questions only you can answer.

When it comes to the sensor, I think this mouse is not so popular because it uses the Philips Twin Eye sensor, which a lot of people are not a fan of.

One thing I personally do not like is how heavy it is. This seems to be a trend.. heavy mice which have the option to make them even heavier. A base weight of almost 150 grams is way too much for me, but other people seem to actually enjoy this.

As a general tip for BF3, scrolling for weapon selection is always a little slow, and while I am sure there are people who can do it at lightning speed, generally it is easier to use a dedicated button for certain weapons. Personally I use a button to toggle pistol (so pressing once mean using the pistol, pressing once more means back to main weapon), one to toggle gadget1 and one to toggle gadget2. This way you can use any of those within a second. It is actually a lot easier than using the scroll wheel.
Edited by kazuyamishima - 3/26/13 at 3:43am
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It depends on you whether it is a good choice or not. Does it have all the features you would want, and is it comfortable to use? Those are questions only you can answer.

When it comes to the sensor, I think this mouse is not so popular because it uses the Philips Twin Eye sensor, which a lot of people are not a fan of.

One thing I personally do not like is how heavy it is. This seems to be a trend.. heavy mice which have the option to make them even heavier. A base weight of almost 150 grams is way too much for me, but other people seem to actually enjoy this.

As a general tip for BF3, scrolling for weapon selection is always a little slow, and while I am sure there are people who can do it at lightning speed, generally it is easier to use a dedicated button for certain weapons. Personally I use a button to toggle pistol (so pressing once mean using the pistol, pressing once more means back to main weapon), one to toggle gadget1 and one to toggle gadget2. This way you can use any of those within a second. It is actually a lot easier than using the scroll wheel.

That was my idea for the one button but need help setting it up that way. Software not so straight forward to me when it comes to a specific button switching between 2keys, each using its own key
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Just read a test: 154g without weights and cable. Omg, my M.M.O.7 with more keys has just: 130g w.o.: weight (28g)/cable (33g)/spring(1g)/screwdriver(8g), so if you would add all it's straight 200g in total. Compared to an KoneXTD without weights and cable at 123g it still feels less heavy and easier to move on the mousepad due to an IMHO better balance point. You just feel the weight if you actually lift-off the mouse but due to the Z-Achsis bug on the laser that's anyway an no go.

The laser is the same so on not "beeing popular" there are 2 things: first the lift-off so if you do that don't buy a current RAT/MMO and with new revision they also changed from PLN 2032 to 2033 that has Dynamic CPI Scaling (that also results in some kind of acceleration) and destroying your aiming. I already asked if there will be some firmware update to remove that, hope they can provide it else i have to send it back.

On software side you better use the "Cyborg Auto-Profiler" instead of the included Profiler. But what do you mean with "And the target button i would like to use to switch a specific dpi mode on and off"? The button featuring a constantly dpi change once you press it and change back after 2nd click? That would be "Latched" (hold mouse over "precision aim"; in the drop box, move to the arrow indicating another drop box and check the top entry).
Edited by diNovoM - 3/26/13 at 9:22am
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Wich mousepad are u using? Do you experience any kind of accel/jitter with it?
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No, it was not a good choice. There are articles online to suggest there are only a few good gaming mice. You have mx518, G400, DA3500. All others have reported issues with inherited mouse acceleration, jittery movements, tracking issues. It will pay in the long run to spend a full day reading nonstop articles about mice. http://www.esreality.com Has amazing articles on mice for you to review.
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RAT mice sure look fantastic, and I almost got the MMO RAT 7, but after reading a multitude of reviews, it turns out that they don't last. After about 6 months, the buttons will begin to fatigue or fail entirely, particularly the thumb buttons. I return it, if possible, and look into getting a Logitech or Steel Series mouse. Having used all 3 in person, I can vouch that the RAT mice may feel fine, but their inferior build-quality leads to inevitable failure.
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Just read a test: 154g without weights and cable. Omg, my M.M.O.7 with more keys has just: 130g w.o.: weight (28g)/cable (33g)/spring(1g)/screwdriver(8g), so if you would add all it's straight 200g in total. Compared to an KoneXTD without weights and cable at 123g it still feels less heavy and easier to move on the mousepad due to an IMHO better balance point. You just feel the weight if you actually lift-off the mouse but due to the Z-Achsis bug on the laser that's anyway an no go.

The laser is the same so on not "beeing popular" there are 2 things: first the lift-off so if you do that don't buy a current RAT/MMO and with new revision they also changed from PLN 2032 to 2033 that has Dynamic CPI Scaling (that also results in some kind of acceleration) and destroying your aiming. I already asked if there will be some firmware update to remove that, hope they can provide it else i have to send it back.

On software side you better use the "Cyborg Auto-Profiler" instead of the included Profiler. But what do you mean with "And the target button i would like to use to switch a specific dpi mode on and off"? The button featuring a constantly dpi change once you press it and change back after 2nd click? That would be "Latched" (hold mouse over "precision aim"; in the drop box, move to the arrow indicating another drop box and check the top entry).

What customizes can the auto profiler do that the standard one cant? So in short the rat 7 is the best of the rat series? I really thought i was buying a decent gaming mouse. Here is evens a dedicated club for it but i only hear bad news about the product. I removed all my weights and left 1bar in, feels better that way. And i havent noticed the sensitivity yet. Still getting used to it though.

The button i was referring to is the red one on the side. I want that butting to be for switching to dpi the highest dpi mode and the third lowerst. Example one click on the red button and my turning in tank is much much better. and the other is for slow scroll movement .
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Wich mousepad are u using? Do you experience any kind of accel/jitter with it?

i got a good price roccat sense mouse pad. It's ok really. Nothing more. Still gotta get use to dpi settings and the feel of the rat according to how i've set mine up.
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What customizes can the auto profiler do that the standard one cant?
So many things: Auto-load profile on custom application, -while changing: DPI, precision key, Hot Keys, even custom scripts. Further you can change the pooling rate, and change the way programs are detected. That's just to name the highlights.
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So in short the rat 7 is the best of the rat series? I really thought i was buying a decent gaming mouse. Here is evens a dedicated club for it but i only hear bad news about the product. I removed all my weights and left 1bar in, feels better that way. And i havent noticed the sensitivity yet. Still getting used to it though.
It's the best R.A.T. And if you got an old version without Dynamic CPI Scaling, don't lift-off the mouse and the sensor is working with your pad (that can be picky) - it's IMHO the best you can get. Else you might run into troubles.
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The button i was referring to is the red one on the side. I want that butting to be for switching to dpi the highest dpi mode and the third lowerst. Example one click on the red button and my turning in tank is much much better. and the other is for slow scroll movement
I believe setting custom dpi to specific button won't be possible. You just can set a specific dpi starting with a game and have the precision button to lower your speed. And for sure use DPI switch to toggle between them.
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