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post #171 of 180
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Originally Posted by webdevii View Post

I know the H100 does sound worrysome however from what I have been told there is only a .5% failure rate on these. And Corsair does honor there warranty....

Although I would recommend investing in and building your own custom loop. I had Joe at Frozen CPU assist myself in doing it and it is working awesome however the cost was about 80% more than the H100 was roughly $600.00.

Good Luck and if you need any basic advise feel free to ask I will be glad to share what I do know as well as finding out if I do not.

Dev

that number isn't a statistic but an opinion tongue.gif

corsair had a huge batch of these that were faulty in which they claimed "newer" batches had no issues. That decimal is totally on the wrong side biggrin.gifthumb.gif
  
  
post #172 of 180
How can a statistic of 0.5% failure rate be an opinion?
post #173 of 180
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Originally Posted by sakerfalcon View Post

How can a statistic of 0.5% failure rate be an opinion?
Well, simply because it's unrealistic.
There have been no surveys done on the X amount of H100's to determine X are faulty.
However, since you are actually questioning me about this and can't see my logic.
If Corsair tells you 10-100k mass produced units are faulty and there is a million units out there, it's safe to say 1-10% are guaranteed to have issues asides from the ones that end up having more issues.

In our case, we don't know, so for you to throw out a number like 0.5% is just silly, holds no weight since you have no proof behind it.


I'm not trying to insult you, it's just a pet peeve of mine when people throw out numbers, just because they can post what they feel on the internet biggrin.gif
  
  
post #174 of 180
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Originally Posted by Koniakki View Post

Just my luck. I just bought a brand new H100 a week ago and I got an offer from a friend for a 1month old H100i for the same price. F**k! tongue.gif

Bummer, I would have taken the H100i, in fact I just sold mine for $75.00 when Corsair replaced it due to the H100 failure. Because I built my own custom loop. Corsair even admitted to me anyways that the H100 had some issues. thus the 100i is it's replacement.

I wish you luck with yours and hope everything works out. like I said the failure rate on the H100's are slim to none, you should be ok, just keep an eye on the fittings that go into the water block as that is where the leaks usually occur. and also preferably have your motherboard mounted horizontally and not laying flat, less area to get wet and a chance of saving it in the event of a leak.


If you ever need any more assistance on building a custom loop feel free to PM me, I would be happy to assist.
Now that I have done a successful one.

Dev
post #175 of 180
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Originally Posted by INCREDIBLEHULK View Post

that number isn't a statistic but an opinion tongue.gif

corsair had a huge batch of these that were faulty in which they claimed "newer" batches had no issues. That decimal is totally on the wrong side biggrin.gifthumb.gif

Really????

Now that I did not know,

Thanks for the info Hulk

Dev
post #176 of 180
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Originally Posted by INCREDIBLEHULK View Post

that number isn't a statistic but an opinion tongue.gif

corsair had a huge batch of these that were faulty in which they claimed "newer" batches had no issues. That decimal is totally on the wrong side biggrin.gifthumb.gif

...

I'm not trying to insult you, it's just a pet peeve of mine when people throw out numbers, just because they can post what they feel on the internet biggrin.gif

I think you may be confusing a couple of issues... I spent a decent amount of time on their forums as well as reading about them on here when they came out (and with the H100i vs D14 compare) and to my knowledge the only problem that Corsair indicated there were a large number of the H100's (and H60/80 as well actually) were related to the fans or the fan controllers - not leaking coolant or faulty fittings. This is indeed well documented, in numerous locations, and was changed in later releases. IIRC they even had a time when anyone with the problem could contact them and get a replacement.

Considering the cost of replacing the damaged hardware caused by a leaking unit, especially in comparison to the margin on the cooler itself - if they had experienced anything close to a 5-10% failure rate (at least LEAKING failures) I guarantee they would have not only had a recall - but potentially would have discontinued the cooler line entirely (at least until a completely different unit was sourced).

I'm not trying to insult you... but I believe it is actually you who has your decimal point on the wrong side - but I welcome you to direct me to any articles that indicate otherwise - I'm certainly not infallible (but reasonably well informed). wink.gif

I do, however, agree with the exact percentage being only a guess on his part - but that is not the only 'misinformation' in this thread - and it's less egregious (IMO of course). rolleyes.gif
post #177 of 180
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Originally Posted by DiGiCiDAL View Post

I think you may be confusing a couple of issues... I spent a decent amount of time on their forums as well as reading about them on here when they came out (and with the H100i vs D14 compare) and to my knowledge the only problem that Corsair indicated there were a large number of the H100's (and H60/80 as well actually) were related to the fans or the fan controllers - not leaking coolant or faulty fittings. This is indeed well documented, in numerous locations, and was changed in later releases. IIRC they even had a time when anyone with the problem could contact them and get a replacement.

no, corsair had 2 main problems. the second 'problem' was noisy pumps because quality control in the manufactures' factories sucked. they mostly stayed within tolerances but it was still too much slop in the shaft and seat. undervolting helped but it still had the crap tolerance issue. corsair put their foot down on the manufacturers and that problem was solved.
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post #178 of 180
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Originally Posted by pc-illiterate View Post

no, corsair had 2 main problems. the second 'problem' was noisy pumps because quality control in the manufactures' factories sucked. they mostly stayed within tolerances but it was still too much slop in the shaft and seat. undervolting helped but it still had the crap tolerance issue. corsair put their foot down on the manufacturers and that problem was solved.

thanks for posting pc-illiterate. seems the other guy spent not enough time on the corsair forums to know what hes talking about smile.gif
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Originally Posted by DiGiCiDAL View Post

I think you may be confusing a couple of issues... I spent a decent amount of time on their forums as well as reading about them on here when they came out (and with the H100i vs D14 compare) and to my knowledge the only problem that Corsair indicated there were a large number of the H100's (and H60/80 as well actually) were related to the fans or the fan controllers - not leaking coolant or faulty fittings. This is indeed well documented, in numerous locations, and was changed in later releases. IIRC they even had a time when anyone with the problem could contact them and get a replacement.

Considering the cost of replacing the damaged hardware caused by a leaking unit, especially in comparison to the margin on the cooler itself - if they had experienced anything close to a 5-10% failure rate (at least LEAKING failures) I guarantee they would have not only had a recall - but potentially would have discontinued the cooler line entirely (at least until a completely different unit was sourced).

I'm not trying to insult you... but I believe it is actually you who has your decimal point on the wrong side - but I welcome you to direct me to any articles that indicate otherwise - I'm certainly not infallible (but reasonably well informed). wink.gif

I do, however, agree with the exact percentage being only a guess on his part - but that is not the only 'misinformation' in this thread - and it's less egregious (IMO of course). rolleyes.gif

sorry but i don't dig for information when it's there. if you choose to ignore it its your own fault. as pc-illiterate posted, you should spend more time and go read the more well documented issues corsair had with these units

i'm not trying to insult you, but you are still confused, i never said the faulty units were all based on leaks.

however, if you take the time to read corsair's policy, you will see most of the time you might have issues with them not honoring the replacement of your parts because the policy easily shifts all the blame and liability on the owner of the unit. just read there policy. you'd be amazed

just take the time to do more research on their forums instead of taking shots at me and you'll know what you're talking about instead of calling others confused when you're looking at A and not B when they are both in front of your screen biggrin.gif

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"if they had experienced anything close to a 5-10% failure rate (at least LEAKING failures) I guarantee they would have not only had a recall"
when you use the words guarantee, you basically lose all the possibility of making a valid point.

you think they would "recall" something, yet you guarantee it, you can't live in your own world you have to live in the real world. you think they would remove 500,000 from stores?
they wouldnt. thats why people are still buying corsair H series units and still having this problem.
this is a big name company, on top of that, they know if 500k people buy them and have problems. less than 250k will actually contact them. point being they will lose a lot less leaving these products on shelf instead of recalling the whole batch series to put a "new working product"
that's why you can go to your local store today, buy a H100 and still get a grinding noise from your pump/fans and it might leak on you.
but feel free to "guarantee" this company cares more about it's customers instead of it's profits when they dont.
Edited by INCREDIBLEHULK - 5/18/13 at 9:03am
  
  
post #179 of 180
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Originally Posted by INCREDIBLEHULK View Post

thanks for posting pc-illiterate. seems the other guy spent not enough time on the corsair forums to know what hes talking about smile.gif
sorry but i don't dig for information when it's there. if you choose to ignore it its your own fault. as pc-illiterate posted, you should spend more time and go read the more well documented issues corsair had with these units

i'm not trying to insult you, but you are still confused, i never said the faulty units were all based on leaks.

however, if you take the time to read corsair's policy, you will see most of the time you might have issues with them not honoring the replacement of your parts because the policy easily shifts all the blame and liability on the owner of the unit. just read there policy. you'd be amazed

just take the time to do more research on their forums instead of taking shots at me and you'll know what you're talking about instead of calling others confused when you're looking at A and not B when they are both in front of your screen biggrin.gif

edit-
"if they had experienced anything close to a 5-10% failure rate (at least LEAKING failures) I guarantee they would have not only had a recall"
when you use the words guarantee, you basically lose all the possibility of making a valid point.

you think they would "recall" something, yet you guarantee it, you can't live in your own world you have to live in the real world. you think they would remove 500,000 from stores?
they wouldnt. thats why people are still buying corsair H series units and still having this problem.
this is a big name company, on top of that, they know if 500k people buy them and have problems. less than 250k will actually contact them. point being they will lose a lot less leaving these products on shelf instead of recalling the whole batch series to put a "new working product"
that's why you can go to your local store today, buy a H100 and still get a grinding noise from your pump/fans and it might leak on you.
but feel free to "guarantee" this company cares more about it's customers instead of it's profits when they dont.

"I don't dig for information when its there" ?

Anybody would be confused by that word jumble.

When somebody refers to failures in a thread about a leaking unit ... chances are there are talking about leaking. Maybe you should check that you understand what they are saying before you correct or dismiss people.
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post #180 of 180
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Well I see there is some bickering back and forth here between members, of irrelevant nature,

When I started this thread a couple of months ago I was just looking for some information and advice. I never intended it to be a bash fest among members.

I do apologize for anything that happened here negatively. So at this time I deem this thread

C L O S E D .........

Dev
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