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I had first a h100 break on me and now an H220, which I have to send to France... If I don't get a new one I will be pissed, because both were broken straight from the box -.-
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I've actually got an H100i in my workstation at work... no leaks (thank God) but I have to laugh when I compare it to my custom loop rig at home - granted they are not remotely comparable systems (well they're both running 3570K's but that's about all they have in common).

In comparison to some of the better air coolers I've used... the performance is mediocre at best. If I compare the performance to my custom loop at home... it's absolute crap. On the other hand, if someone told me I had to get them the best stable OC possible out of any recent chip and I couldn't spend more than $100 on a cooler... I'd go CLC every time.

On my custom loop I think I spent about 7 times that much... so yeah, it can cool everything incredibly well... but then again in the workstation that my H100i cools... I only have about $750 in total hardware including the CLC. Somehow it doesn't seem right to spend more than 10-15% of the cost of the hardware itself for a CPU cooler - on the other hand, it also doesn't seem right to cool a $2-3K system with a $50 cooler. biggrin.gif

Naturally IMO only...

And it also completely depends on allowable down-time. I wouldn't ever build a server with watercooling, CLC or custom for that matter - but on a machine that gets regular backups... sure why not?
Edited by DiGiCiDAL - 3/30/13 at 6:36am
post #63 of 180
I hope Corsair takes care of the OP (and it sounds so far like they will), but yea, trusting your stuff to someone (or something) else who assembled it, compared to building your own sounds a little like a leap of faith. But again, plugging any new bit into a computer and turning it on, hoping it doesn't fry everything else, can be as well.

I don't assume anything is 100%, but I feel better with the work I have done on the more complicated custom loop than what Corsair did on their AIO. I like knowing that I can break it down at any time and replace any bit, (I have had a leaky RES that I replaced), and have drained it several times to add a drain line, quick disconnects and air inlet (to assist the drain). The H100 on my server is a 24/7 so I check it every two weeks when I power it down to blow it out. I worry more about that little pump failing than anything else, but I guess I should add a good fitting check.

To the OP; the AIO coolers are very different beasts compared to a custom loop. The former is 'quick done and dirty' while the latter can be a hobby in itself. A good water system will provide better temps, and if properly done (and really not hard to do- it's the planning that determines the outcome) is a safe way to get the needed cooling for high overclocks. The parts will be of higher quality and you control the outcome. If the system is not being overclocked and you can get reasonable temps on air, then pursuing that may be the best route if you don't want the extra work involved in the upkeep of a water system. But for those who want to get the most they can from their chips, air just won't do it.
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post #64 of 180
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Originally Posted by tzvia View Post

I hope Corsair takes care of the OP (and it sounds so far like they will), but yea, trusting your stuff to someone (or something) else who assembled it, compared to building your own sounds a little like a leap of faith. But again, plugging any new bit into a computer and turning it on, hoping it doesn't fry everything else, can be as well.

I don't assume anything is 100%, but I feel better with the work I have done on the more complicated custom loop than what Corsair did on their AIO. I like knowing that I can break it down at any time and replace any bit, (I have had a leaky RES that I replaced), and have drained it several times to add a drain line, quick disconnects and air inlet (to assist the drain). The H100 on my server is a 24/7 so I check it every two weeks when I power it down to blow it out. I worry more about that little pump failing than anything else, but I guess I should add a good fitting check.

To the OP; the AIO coolers are very different beasts compared to a custom loop. The former is 'quick done and dirty' while the latter can be a hobby in itself. A good water system will provide better temps, and if properly done (and really not hard to do- it's the planning that determines the outcome) is a safe way to get the needed cooling for high overclocks. The parts will be of higher quality and you control the outcome. If the system is not being overclocked and you can get reasonable temps on air, then pursuing that may be the best route if you don't want the extra work involved in the upkeep of a water system. But for those who want to get the most they can from their chips, air just won't do it.

I like the way you put that TZVIA, it sounds you think along the same lines I do, good planning draws a good outcome, and piss poor planning offers a piss poor result. I am always doing homework before I build anything weighing all of the risk's vs. rewards, and I thought I had it licked with the CLCH100 I was mainly looking for low temps not so much over clocking as the system itself was completely typed and parts matched to attain a very high windows performance index (by the way I do not weigh too much into that anyhows) but over all the performance was awesome and what I had hoped for in my research and planning. I do understand that the Custom built liquid systems are much more expensive and would place the spend at about 20%+/- of my total system investment of about $3,500.00 not including any type of cooling systems.

So with that said
If anyone wants to suggest a parts list for a custom cooler I would take your advice and give it a shot since I have never done a custom cooler I do not know any of the parts needed and what not. Like I do building systems themselves.

Dev
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Actually my claim was just submitted yesterday 3/29. They said they have only had maybe 1% of the damage claims denied due to user F-Ups, which mine was not and they will find that to be true. But yeah you guys here were correct they do have an awesome damage claim department where as they could have just said I was SOL and blown me off. Which they DID Not! I think the outcome of this will be good. and may just try a Custom Loop system as a couple of the members here said to do. I consider my self a damn good engineer and computer tech and take the time to read it 3 times or measure it 6 times then do the install or cut. instead of just winging it. I think I am capable of building and installing a custom loop water cooler. but for now I am sticking to air until I get this system back to normal.

Also one question I did have to you or anyone else that reads this is this: Since I am going to have to replace my Host Raid SAS controller, am I going to have to do a reformat of my System drive, or should it just pick it up after a bit of configuration on the new card.. It is an LSI 9207 4e / 4i SAS / SATA Host Controller.

Thank you all again

Dev.

If it was a RAID set of some sort, the RAID config data should be embedded on either the first or last sector of each drive, iirc. BIOS will ask you if you want to import the foreign set.

If it was a single drive, just plug the drive into the controller in the same port, controller in the same slot, and off you go give or take windows activation. (Don't get me started).
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I like the way you put that TZVIA, it sounds you think along the same lines I do, good planning draws a good outcome, and piss poor planning offers a piss poor result. I am always doing homework before I build anything weighing all of the risk's vs. rewards, and I thought I had it licked with the CLCH100 I was mainly looking for low temps not so much over clocking as the system itself was completely typed and parts matched to attain a very high windows performance index (by the way I do not weigh too much into that anyhows) but over all the performance was awesome and what I had hoped for in my research and planning. I do understand that the Custom built liquid systems are much more expensive and would place the spend at about 20%+/- of my total system investment of about $3,500.00 not including any type of cooling systems.

So with that said
If anyone wants to suggest a parts list for a custom cooler I would take your advice and give it a shot since I have never done a custom cooler I do not know any of the parts needed and what not. Like I do building systems themselves.

Dev

What have you got for case, proc, GPU etc? The case makes all the difference in the world, when it comes to a custom loop. What do you have open for drive bays? That will determine for example what kind of reservoir you can use and what capacity. Do you want to cool just your CPU, or your graphics too, or go all the way and cool your VRMs on the mainboard?

Are you prepared to at least drain the loop and inspect/replace coolant every 6 months to a year? Those, along with your expectations (low temps, how much of an overclock you want to push) start to allow one to develop vague guidelines.
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Lucky for you you did decide to do your own when you did, the computer Gods were with ya that day kudos... Also how hard was it to build your own..

Dev

Well, it was not too difficult but I did take a lot of research and planning. There are so many different options that it can be a bit overwhelming. Once you figure out how you want to do it then your on to the easy and fun part of actually putting everything together. To me that's the best part of a custom loop, you get to plan and build it yourself. It makes your system completely unique and it's something you can be proud of. Anyone can throw hardware together and have a nice rig, but water cooling is something else entirely. Just have to be careful because it can be addicting and once you start you will never stop. There is risk involved but if you are careful and do it right then the risk is minimal. If you decide to build one then these forums are priceless, lots of people willing to share past experiences and guide you in the right direction. thumb.gif
Edited by ViperSB1 - 3/30/13 at 3:07pm
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What have you got for case, proc, GPU etc? The case makes all the difference in the world, when it comes to a custom loop. What do you have open for drive bays? That will determine for example what kind of reservoir you can use and what capacity. Do you want to cool just your CPU, or your graphics too, or go all the way and cool your VRMs on the mainboard?

Are you prepared to at least drain the loop and inspect/replace coolant every 6 months to a year? Those, along with your expectations (low temps, how much of an overclock you want to push) start to allow one to develop vague guidelines.

For a case I am using a Lian Li Cube with 18 5.25 drive bays open in the front, on the top I have a module for a 2 fan radiator or 2 120mm fans, I am running an Asus 2011 X79 board, and an i7 3.2 overclockable processor w/ 64 gb memory. I have 9 free 5.25 drive bays free on one side of the case and 2 fre on the other as the mobo seats in the center of the case with the drives and PSU on the back side of the mobo and the cards and the other 9 5.25" bays on the other side, and of course the opening at the top for fans / radiator btw I do believe the case is the Lian Li 343b Cube 18"w x 18"d x 24"h.

Space is basically a 10 unit condo hehe haha it is quite large for what it is.
Here is the link to the case http://www.google.com/aclk?sa=L&ai=CRm5b_HVXUfO5FeP_iQL2-ICwBrmAkfkC8fS8nx_h27-yawgGEAYoBlDdhbqXAWDJ5vCGyKOQGcgBB6oEK0_QuUJHwxUgFbAEfWX74JGOgsyDQdtosmy3jTlJKuLnymuMt9oAU-5dWrG6BRMIyoHF4MyltgIVa7xCCh37YgDgwAUFygUAoAYmgAfbgI4V4BKt9aL-zZiU0JYB&ei=_HVXUcqTE-v4igL7xYGADg&sig=AOD64_1HN8G-SBx58il-TvbBaGNnG-74CQ&ctype=5&sqi=2&ved=0COABEPQO&adurl=http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-117182-37290-0/2%3Fipn%3Dpsmain%26icep_vectorid%3D324272%26mtid%3D1588%26kwid%3D1%26crlp%3D8301554409_324272%26icep_item_id%3D271125997301%26itemid%3D271125997301%26icep_meta_categ_id%3D58058%26icep_etrs%3DN%26icep_epid%3D-999%26icep_ctlg%3D-999%26icep_cond%3DNew%26targetid%3D28828495329%26rpc%3D0.05%26rpc_upld_id%3D11773%26icep_cbt%3Dn%26icep_msku_flag%3Dn%26adtype%3Dpla&rct=j&q=lian+li+343b

it is the 343B

Thank you for your consideration

Regards Dev
Edited by webdevii - 3/30/13 at 4:33pm
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If it was a RAID set of some sort, the RAID config data should be embedded on either the first or last sector of each drive, iirc. BIOS will ask you if you want to import the foreign set.

If it was a single drive, just plug the drive into the controller in the same port, controller in the same slot, and off you go give or take windows activation. (Don't get me started).

Hey man,
thank you for that, it is a single drive SAS plugged into the LSI controller, I figured just plugging the card back into the same slot (which I marked) it should not be a big deal, and I know what your getting at about windows activation. gurrrrr grumble and all that.. I love unix soo much better but anyway we are dealing with windows 7 Professional. and the drive is my Windows Drive that plugs into the SAS Controller.

Thank you for your help

Regards
Dev
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Heh if you are realy afraid of watercooling in your pc, i think it is one way to make safe with nanotecnologies, like it is a spray with nanotechnology, you need to spray all of you components, let it dry, then you safe smile.gif)) i have seen somwhere to buy, but is hard to find smile.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjsWFvUkh7M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=sIKY6xPxMwk
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