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Average from 7 reviews found in the reviews thread (the reviews that actually had OCd numbers) is 1105.5MHz. So uh...

Most GPUs wont be OCd at all, do OCNers really care about that? Not really, at least most of the time. So I guess if you're afraid of that BIOS flash then you should pay attention to Titan reviews when it comes to OCd numbers. However me and most active people in the Titan owners club will do a 5 minute bios flash and enjoy cards that OC much better and don't throttle. If you're OCing your card in the first place you can do a bios flash. If it goes wrong you can also fix it in 20 minutes. Not a big deal.

I thought OCN was about the pursuit of performance? Not the pursuit of the highest OC only using afterburner.
because a person who buys a lower-mid range card will totally care about Bios flashing and having the best GPU performance possible right.

Trusting Review OC numbers is perfectly fine for this demographic because that's what they do, buy a card, snap it in and play games.
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Something a lot of you are overlooking is the fact that the 7850 has been out for a while, so AMD has had time to optimize the drivers. I have never seen a video card that did not improve post launch due to driver updates. If the 650 Ti Boost can slug it out with a stock 7850 now, just wait until the drivers improve and the OC'ers start tweaking, and then let's see what happens. Who knows? Maybe in the long run an OC'd Ti Boost won't beat an OC'd 7850, but you really do not know right now. I remember when the GTX 470 launched, it traded blows with the 5850, but after the drivers matured, it competed on an even footing with the 5870 (and sometimes beat it). I hear plenty of supposition based on brand loyalty, but the fact is that Nvidia has a solid contender here.
 
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what are you using right now?

Something i built for the wife. 5Ghz I3 560 with a pair of Asus 5870 Matrix's

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Average from 7 reviews found in the reviews thread (the reviews that actually had OCd numbers) is 1105.5MHz. So uh...

Most GPUs wont be OCd at all, do OCNers really care about that? Not really, at least most of the time. So I guess if you're afraid of that BIOS flash then you should pay attention to Titan reviews when it comes to OCd numbers. However me and most active people in the Titan owners club will do a 5 minute bios flash and enjoy cards that OC much better and don't throttle. If you're OCing your card in the first place you can do a bios flash. If it goes wrong you can also fix it in 20 minutes. Not a big deal.

I thought OCN was about the pursuit of performance? Not the pursuit of the highest OC only using afterburner.

Couldn't have said it any better myself
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because a person who buys a lower-mid range card will totally care about Bios flashing and having the best GPU performance possible right.

Trusting Review OC numbers is perfectly fine for this demographic because that's what they do, buy a card, snap it in and play games.

If they buy a low end card on this forum they should care about overclocking. Say the two i plan on buying can do 1350 boost core with an unlocked bios. Wouldnt that make you more appealing to prospective buyers knowing that if they flash they could get a ton of more performance? I think upping the Target Power alone to 125% will do wonders.
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Something a lot of you are overlooking is the fact that the 7850 has been out for a while, so AMD has had time to optimize the drivers. I have never seen a video card that did not improve post launch due to driver updates. If the 650 Ti Boost can slug it out with a stock 7850 now, just wait until the drivers improve and the OC'ers start tweaking, and then let's see what happens. Who knows? Maybe in the long run an OC'd Ti Boost won't beat an OC'd 7850, but you really do not know right now. I remember when the GTX 470 launched, it traded blows with the 5850, but after the drivers matured, it competed on an even footing with the 5870 (and sometimes beat it). I hear plenty of supposition based on brand loyalty, but the fact is that Nvidia has a solid contender here.

I had both GTX470 and HD 5850 and GTX470 was only faster in some DX11 games. DX10/9 HD 5850 was faster. Both where OCed to the MAX.

GTX650 Ti Boost is not a new card. Same card as GTX660 with some dissabled units. It uses same drivers and has same optimizations. If it will get a performance boost all GTX6XX will.
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The bundles are a slippery slope for a number of reasons. First and foremost, their actual value can only be amortized over a very short period of time. This means they'll likely be played for a month or so and then pushed aside, unlike the GPU which will (hopefully) be part of your system for years.

In addition, selling them can't really be discussed since the publishers' own Terms of Use for these bundled games state they cannot be sold. Some people do it but it nonetheless runs contrary to the ToU. Don't believe me? Make sure you read carefully before hitting that "accept" button.

Personally, I take the value of a graphics card as a dollar amount that doesn't include game bundles, mail in rebates, etc..

I think that's flawed reasoning. The bottom line is that the bundles add value regardless of amortization or anything else. It's money not coming out of a consumers pocket if he buys a 7790 or 7850, but it adds to the cost of a 650.
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I think that's flawed reasoning. The bottom line is that the bundles add value regardless of amortization or anything else. It's money not coming out of a consumers pocket if he buys a 7790 or 7850, but it adds to the cost of a 650.

You get Bioshock if you buy a 7850 or 7790. Thats a game i dont even care about
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You get Bioshock if you buy a 7850 or 7790. Thats a game i dont even care about

For 7850/7870 you forgot Tomb Raider... and 7950 and 7970 you get Crysis 3 and Bioshock Infinite... Bioshock Infinite is a masterpiece like Half Life series, Bioshock 1/2 or Fallout series...
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For 7850/7870 you forgot Tomb Raider... and 7950 and 7970 you get Crysis 3 and Bioshock Infinite... Bioshock Infinite is a masterpiece like Half Life series, Bioshock 1/2 or Fallout series...

Tomb Raider - Already Have
Crysis 3 - Already Have
Bioshock - Who cares

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Average from 7 reviews found in the reviews thread (the reviews that actually had OCd numbers) is 1105.5MHz. So uh...

Most GPUs wont be OCd at all, do OCNers really care about that? Not really, at least most of the time. So I guess if you're afraid of that BIOS flash then you should pay attention to Titan reviews when it comes to OCd numbers. However me and most active people in the Titan owners club will do a 5 minute bios flash and enjoy cards that OC much better and don't throttle. If you're OCing your card in the first place you can do a bios flash. If it goes wrong you can also fix it in 20 minutes. Not a big deal.

I thought OCN was about the pursuit of performance? Not the pursuit of the highest OC only using afterburner.

I've said that before, refreshing to see it said again. =) I find it discerning that everything has been software this, software that. I think we've lost track of what it means to push the hardware, to go beyond what is "acceptable" and have the hardware shine at it's fullest. To me, that's better than anything you can find on a review site. They take what, a couple stable runs and then do benchmarks? I remember a good OC might take you some time, effort, and a lot of patience. Now it's about how this or that overclocks with software, instant gratification. Sure, it's nice but it says something about the consumer as well. MSI Afterburner made mild overclocking mainstream, once that happened things got... Well things got a little downhill, now we get obtuse flame wars over this crap.

Idk, I'd much rather have a bios mod than a software clock (Edit: After thought, I'd also rather have a hard mod than a software clock). It's one of the points I give to Nvidia, at least the bios tools available works on most cards. Even the latest and greatest, you can mod that bios much better than the current gen Radeon cards. Hopefully somebody changes that, I won't because I personally don't care THAT much. I just think it's a nice bonus and an added perk going with that side of the fence.
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Interesting review(s)..... I was expecting it to cost $169, but Nvidia is sticking to their guns.
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