Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric
Every post you make to counter mine is made up of absolute guesswork and baseless assumptions. You don't work for Nvidia. You have no idea what they would have or will do, you just have a leaked supposed 670Ti and what Nvidia did in the past with Fermi as your "evidence". There are all kinds of possibilities for why they did what they did, most likely revolving around higher profit margins. Sure they could've been late with GK110 like they were with GF100 and they could've again been a laughing stock. My opinion (and all any of this is is opinion) is that they aren't EVER going to go that route again, regardless of what AMD releases. I'll just quote an old buddy of mine from OCN (Ballathefeared):
"Let's argue over who's opinion is right. Threads never get locked that way."
As far as comparison between Titan and the 7970 goes, you're right, it runs around 30% most of the time (though the difference is only 14% in Crysis and 20% in BF3 in my internal testing). You said that 30% was such an impressive number yet the fact that the 7970 beat the 580 by that much a year ago was supposedly not enough to warrant Nvidia going with the "Fermi" strategy? Let me ask you this, just how much better did the 7970 have to be over the 580 for Nvidia to employ this Fermi scenario where they are very late with a very limited number of cards at a very high price? 40%? 50%? You've already said that 30% is a massive, "blowing the doors off" number so why was the 7970 beating Nvidia's flagship (at the time) by 30% seen as such an underwhelming performance? Doesn't make sense to me...
I will point out the problem with your logic...
You are comparing a 7970 on 28nm and a new archtecture, to a 580 on 40nm and an old architecture.
Titan is 28nm and is on average 34% faster than a 7970 on the same 28nm process, which is a proper comparison.
Also, saying the 7970 was 30% faster at release is far from accurate.
At a lower resolution it lost to a 580?
The only 33% result I found was:
While the 7970 was 37% faster than a 580, Titan is 60% faster than a 7970GE in the same game.
Titan on the other hand is on AVG 34% faster than a 7970GE, with year old drivers.
You have a Titan, why is it so hard for you to accept these facts?
I don't feel like doing the numbers, maybe someone else will, but if you compare the numbers of 6970 to 7970 on release
vs 580 to Titan on release
, I guarantee you that Titan's numbers are far more impressive than the 6970 to 7970 numbers.Edited by 2010rig - 3/30/13 at 9:47am