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I don't understand where the fuss comes from. Both the 7850 and 650 Ti boost are good on their own.

-Do you favor NVIDIA? Go 650 Ti Boost.
-Do you plan to play Bioshock or Tomb Raider? Get the 7850.
-Do you require the lowest possible power consumption? Get the 7850

Also, you can factor the chance of selling the bundled games, making the 7850 even cheaper. So, in a "no bundle comparison", once you factor selling the games, the 7850 will pull ahead. But still, I don't think there is any need to make such a big fuss of something so small.
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I don't understand where the fuss comes from. Both the 7850 and 650 Ti boost are good on their own.

-Do you favor NVIDIA? Go 650 Ti Boost.
-Do you plan to play Bioshock or Tomb Raider? Get the 7850.
-Do you require the lowest possible power consumption? Get the 7850

Also, you can factor the chance of selling the bundled games, making the 7850 even cheaper. So, in a "no bundle comparison", once you factor selling the games, the 7850 will pull ahead. But still, I don't think there is any need to make such a big fuss of something so small.

The fuss is from the mod making a stupid statement about this new card being faster than the 7850 in the first post. Most 7850's are sold at 860MHz, they have much more overclocking headroom above that, even with stock volts. If you get a 7850 that has voltage control then you can easily clock it high enough to challenge the GTX 660. The 650ti boost doesn't overclock much over stock. Once overclocked, the 7850 is the clear winner, only a fool would say otherwise. The 7850 also includes a much better bundle like you said, not a laughable free2play cash shop balance.

I would personally buy the 650ti boost because of Nvidia features like light boost but I'm sick of people saying that this card beats the 7850.
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The fuss is from the mod making a stupid statement about this new card being faster than the 7850 in the first post. Most 7850's are sold at 860MHz, they have much more overclocking headroom above that, even with stock volts. If you get a 7850 that has voltage control then you can easily clock it high enough to challenge the GTX 660. The 650ti boost doesn't overclock much over stock. Once overclocked, the 7850 is the clear winner, only a fool would say otherwise. The 7850 also includes a much better bundle like you said, not a laughable free2play cash shop balance.

I would personally buy the 650ti boost because of Nvidia features like light boost but I'm sick of people saying that this card beats the 7850.

most of this being the case, it's not necessarily "stupid" to say a 650ti is faster if it is in fact faster in many recent and popular games out of box. yes, it has almost no headroom. it's already running at 1080mhz-1200mhz+ out of the box. of course the 7850 is faster once overclocked. the fact remains that the 650ti is a compelling offering from nvidia. it's price is right. it's performance is right. what's not to like? but I guess we just have to fight about something right? even those that put this up against the 85w 7790 are being silly. that card is coming in at $20-$30 cheaper than the 650ti boost, just as the boost is coming in cheaper than the 7850. 3 different price brackets (because at $199 and down, every $10-$20 counts) and varying performance levels as well. just saying, stock performance counts for something, even if cards overclock themselves at factory settings. and no, I have not forgot that this is overclock.net smile.gif
Edited by PureBlackFire - 3/31/13 at 2:34pm
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The fuss is from the mod making a stupid statement about this new card being faster than the 7850 in the first post. Most 7850's are sold at 860MHz, they have much more overclocking headroom above that, even with stock volts. If you get a 7850 that has voltage control then you can easily clock it high enough to challenge the GTX 660. The 650ti boost doesn't overclock much over stock. Once overclocked, the 7850 is the clear winner, only a fool would say otherwise. The 7850 also includes a much better bundle like you said, not a laughable free2play cash shop balance.

I would personally buy the 650ti boost because of Nvidia features like light boost but I'm sick of people saying that this card beats the 7850.

It doesn't beat the 7850. Someone already posted a 1200 boost core boost was 8.2 percent slower then a 1200 core 7850 in valley. Given that the boost maxes at 1.15v I don't see 1300 boost core being a problem with an unlocked bios

8.2 percent slower for 29.7 percent less money. Looks like a win win to me and why are all the 7850 trolls in here? Go troll the 660 threads where the 7850 gets smoked
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It doesn't beat the 7850. Someone already posted a 1200 boost core boost was 8.2 percent slower then a 1200 core 7850 in valley. Given that the boost maxes at 1.15v I don't see 1300 boost core being a problem with an unlocked bios

That "someone" was me by the way, haha. Speaking of unlocked bios, I tried doing it last night but I got the following error in the command line, "Hmm. Could not find end of bios"

I'm thinking the 650ti Boost probably isn't compatible yet? Anyone have any advice?

Edit: Oh, and according to GPU-Z the voltage maxes at 1.175 when the power limit is set to 119%
Edited by HydrogenHuman - 3/31/13 at 3:14pm
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It doesn't beat the 7850. Someone already posted a 1200 boost core boost was 8.2 percent slower then a 1200 core 7850 in valley. Given that the boost maxes at 1.15v I don't see 1300 boost core being a problem with an unlocked bios

8.2 percent slower for 29.7 percent less money. Looks like a win win to me and why are all the 7850 trolls in here? Go troll the 660 threads where the 7850 gets smoked

tbh the 7850 is a fantastic little card if you can bear with AMD driver issues.
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The fuss is from the mod making a stupid statement about this new card being faster than the 7850 in the first post. Most 7850's are sold at 860MHz, they have much more overclocking headroom above that, even with stock volts. If you get a 7850 that has voltage control then you can easily clock it high enough to challenge the GTX 660. The 650ti boost doesn't overclock much over stock. Once overclocked, the 7850 is the clear winner, only a fool would say otherwise. The 7850 also includes a much better bundle like you said, not a laughable free2play cash shop balance.

I would personally buy the 650ti boost because of Nvidia features like light boost but I'm sick of people saying that this card beats the 7850.

i am going to just keep repeating and repeating; that game bundle used as a cost offset is complete B.S. and esp. make a contradictory statement by calling another bundle "laughable." what i really boils down to is for either marketing tool, thats all those are not any monetary compensation, is an entertainment value of a few hours.

want to sell them? ok. how much will you get for them here on OCN?
why $0 because you can't sell game bundles here.
sell them on ebay?
ok, do you know what fees you will be charged?
at least 15%.
and as i said before, consider the time spent - its a wash if not a loss. time is money if you want to include intangibles such as game bundles.
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That "someone" was me by the way, haha. Speaking of unlocked bios, I tried doing it last night but I got the following error in the command line, "Hmm. Could not find end of bios"

I'm thinking the 650ti Boost probably isn't compatible yet? Anyone have any advice?

Edit: Oh, and according to GPU-Z the voltage maxes at 1.175 when the power limit is set to 119%

The editor is probably just not updated for the boost bios yet. Give it a few days
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It doesn't beat the 7850. Someone already posted a 1200 boost core boost was 8.2 percent slower then a 1200 core 7850 in valley. Given that the boost maxes at 1.15v I don't see 1300 boost core being a problem with an unlocked bios

8.2 percent slower for 29.7 percent less money. Looks like a win win to me and why are all the 7850 trolls in here? Go troll the 660 threads where the 7850 gets smoked

How did you get 29.7%? confused.gif

170/((100-29.7)/100)=$241.80
150/((100-29.7)/100)=$213.37


Price_HD7850 -0.297* Price_HD7850=Price_GTX650Ti_Boost
0.703*Price_7850=Price_GTX650Ti_Boost

or another way:
(Price_HD7850 -Price_GTX650Ti_Boost )/ Price_HD7850 =( 29.7/100)
Price_GTX650Ti_Boost=0.703 * Price_HD7850

Also
New GTX 650 TI Boost 1250Mhz, actual card is 1075Mhz boost: http://uk.hardware.info/news/34223/gainward-introduces-gtx-650-ti-boost-golden-sample

& OC.ru (GTX 650 TI Boost at 1150Mhz & 1700 memory, GTX 660 at 1150Mhz & 1675 memory, HD7850 1200Mhz, 1400Mhz memory)

http://www.overclockers.ru/lab/53056_5/Test_videokarty_NVIDIA_GeForce_GTX_650_Ti_Boost.html#27
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Why would anyone pay $180 for one of these when you can get a 660 for $20 more? The $159 price point makes sense to me, but anything more seems like you could get a better card at a minimal price difference.
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