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My little brother's birthday is coming up next month.

His rig is in my sig under first build ever. He currently plays at 1366x768 and the 5770 in that rig is struggling with AC3 even at medium settings.

I know that the 7850 is a better card once overclocked but he isn't going to be overclocking (He is turning 8) so I am leaning towards the 650 Ti Boost.

If i buy him this 650 Ti Boost and a new 23" 1080p monitor will it be worth it at this point? Or should I just wait until next gen? I am also waiting for the next gen of cards for my personal rig.

That athlon II X4 @ 3.5ghz is still pretty good even on 64 man BF3 maps. I just want him to get another solid year or two out of that rig before I build him a new one.
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I guess this post doesn't really need a reply since there's really no point to address here. So go buy a Titan then, but what does a $1000 card have to do with a <$200 card???

You can get a 7970 GE for <200?

You're dodging any response because you can't accept the fact that a Titan is WAY faster than any 7970, yet uses 250 watts. I didn't ask about price. If you wanna talk price, show me an AMD card that can match it's performance first. 7970's were $550-600 when they first came out. silly them
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There are only a few certain things in life:

- Tomorrow, the sun will rise

- Water naturally flows downhill

- The seasons will turn

- There is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow

- When a superior NVIDIA card launches, AMD trolls will find at least one item, however minute, to justify how their darling brand is indeed the better choice.


For the record:

GTX 650 Boost vs HD 7850 price difference: ~$20 (not counting the game of MIR Russian Roulette)

At an average North American kWh price of 10 cents, assuming you use the system for 4 hours per day, that $20 will take....about EIGHT YEARS to recuperate.

Simply put, a 16W difference on two mid range cards that are $20 apart will not translate into any real-world savings, rendering the argument null and void.

On the other hand, a 50W or 75W difference on higher end SKUs WILL certainly translate into quicker savings.
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Originally Posted by Alatar View Post

around 10W which is insignificant to the extreme, a fan will draw that much.

Not insignificant in this price bracket.
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NV has quieter reference cooling solutions and the coolers AIBs will slap on these will be identical to the 7790/7850 ones.

Which will add cost. AMD's reference coolers for the 7790 and 7850 are outstanding, the 650ti Boost OMG BBSAUCE doesn't come close to a 7790 and only outperforms the 7850 in furmark noise tests.
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Much higher than the similarly priced 7790 (2GB cards from both camps cost $170 and 1GB ones $150) and similar to the 2GB 7850 for at the very least $15 less.

Where are the 2GB-2GB and 1GB-1GB comparisons?
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Games are subjective.

Subjective? Tomb Raider and Bioshock Infinite are the highest rated games in existence right now. What percentage of the people buying a 7790, 7850, or 650 do you think might want to play one of those titles?
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Originally Posted by piesquared View Post

Not insignificant in this price bracket.
Which will add cost. AMD's reference coolers for the 7790 and 7850 are outstanding, the 650ti Boost OMG BBSAUCE doesn't come close to a 7790 and only outperforms the 7850 in furmark noise tests.
Where are the 2GB-2GB and 1GB-1GB comparisons?
Subjective? Tomb Raider and Bioshock Infinite are the highest rated games in existence right now. What percentage of the people buying a 7790, 7850, or 650 do you think might want to play one of those titles?

assuming this is what you actually believe, it leads me to invalidate almost everything else that comes from your brain

7850 is 8% quieter than a 680.......meh
7790 is 5% quieter than a 680.......meh

and this is comparing a pea-shooter to a gatling gun
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Originally Posted by SKYMTL View Post

There are only a few certain things in life:

- Tomorrow, the sun will rise

- Water naturally flows downhill

- The seasons will turn

- There is no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow

- When a superior NVIDIA card launches, AMD trolls will find at least one item, however minute, to justify how their darling brand is indeed the better choice.


For the record:

GTX 650 Boost vs HD 7850 price difference: ~$20 (not counting the game of MIR Russian Roulette)

At an average North American kWh price of 10 cents, assuming you use the system for 4 hours per day, that $20 will take....about EIGHT YEARS to recuperate.

Simply put, a 16W difference on two mid range cards that are $20 apart will not translate into any real-world savings, rendering the argument null and void.

On the other hand, a 50W or 75W difference on higher end SKUs WILL certainly translate into quicker savings.

Assuming you are directing that comment my way, i'll just ignore the personal attack as always, and repeat that there are actually 3-4 items that make the AMD's cards in this price bracket superior. I see you touting a lot of numbers, but utterly failing to list any advantage the 650 has over the competition. Why don't you start there.
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Originally Posted by piesquared View Post

Not insignificant in this price bracket.

Yes it is, unless you plan on running the card 24/7 at 100% for years.
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Which will add cost. AMD's reference coolers for the 7790 and 7850 are outstanding, the 650ti Boost OMG BBSAUCE doesn't come close to a 7790 and only outperforms the 7850 in furmark noise tests.

It's quieter than the 7850/7870



idle is the same story.

3rd party coolers added to AMD cards also add costs.
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Where are the 2GB-2GB and 1GB-1GB comparisons?

See any review that discusses the models and their MSRPs, TPU for example.
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Subjective? Tomb Raider and Bioshock Infinite are the highest rated games in existence right now. What percentage of the people buying a 7790, 7850, or 650 do you think might want to play one of those titles?

Based on the amount of cards that have been sold (steam survey) people obviously either don't care or prefer NV's stuff.

And they're not the highest rated games. Try something like Kotor 1, HL2 etc. And even then, completely subjective. The people giving the ratings are giving their own opinion on the game.
 
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My little brother's birthday is coming up next month.

His rig is in my sig under first build ever. He currently plays at 1366x768 and the 5770 in that rig is struggling with AC3 even at medium settings.

I know that the 7850 is a better card once overclocked but he isn't going to be overclocking (He is turning 8) so I am leaning towards the 650 Ti Boost.

If i buy him this 650 Ti Boost and a new 23" 1080p monitor will it be worth it at this point? Or should I just wait until next gen? I am also waiting for the next gen of cards for my personal rig.

That athlon II X4 @ 3.5ghz is still pretty good even on 64 man BF3 maps. I just want him to get another solid year or two out of that rig before I build him a new one.

Why not OC it for him? GTX650 Ti Boots overclocks itself.
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I must be the only person on these forums that cares about power consumption and performance per watt. tongue.gif

My needs stem from trying to fit the most powerful card in the smallest consumption margin to fit it all in a Pico-PSU.

That few watts between the 650Ti Boost and the 7850 is enough to cut it out of the running for me.
Even the 7850 is straddling the border on a small power supply.


I'll admit it is an extremely niche situation but there are people out there that do care. wink.gif
     
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assuming this is what you actually believe, it leads me to invalid almost everything else that comes from your brain

Do you have anything to add other than ad hominems and personal attacks? Show me your data to back up your insults.
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