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Isn't it just a mere factory OC'd version? Surely anyone could do it by themselves ...
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post #22 of 28
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Well yes, for me it was night-and-day difference. Running the HD 5830 in WoW & SWTOR I experienced stuttering, slows, mini-freezes, in addition to not being able to run the game maxed out.

If you get that much FPS while streaming, it prolly means that you are not running the game fully maxed out (all settings maxed) and/or you are not playing at 1920X1080 and/or you are not playing with WOW client set to DirectX 11.

If you want to play at 1920X1080 or higher at FULL ULTRA & DX 11, then yes upgrading will make a difference for you but it will not be as major it was for me and my November 2007 CPU.

The key point here is that the MMO Champ Evangelists say that WOW is 100% CPU bound, which -in their view- means that you will get the same gameplay in WoW running a GTX 8800 (a 2006 GPU) or a GTX 590 (a 2010 high-end 1000 Euro GPU). Real life experience has taught me that this is not the case, i.e. the performance difference between a low-end GPU and a high-end modern GPU is substantial at high resolutions and when running full-fledged ULTRA.
Lol, this made me laugh cause I browse the mmo-champ computer forums. Just I never post there.

My 660 from a 5770 was night and day in WoW with the 2500k. The thought that WoW is 100% CPU bound is wrong. Its CPU heavy, but limited to 2 cores. WoW still pushes my GPU 100% and my CPU around 20-50% depending on what I'm doing. That said you shouldn't ignore either. Cause if you do, you end up with 5 FPS in Dragon Soul like with my old PC.

Anyway, the upgrade will still be good honestly. Though you said you use CAD programs and CS6. If you do a lot of rendering and such your CPU would limit you a bit. I'm not exactly sure how those programs are designed to use hardware.
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Isn't it just a mere factory OC'd version? Surely anyone could do it by themselves ...

ROP count matters too. The Boost edition definitely has little perks that the non boost edition doesn't have. They don't even use the same PCB, they really shouldn't have called it a 650 but that's just where the performance worked out to be.
 
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Isn't it just a mere factory OC'd version? Surely anyone could do it by themselves ...

I don't think that it's possible to overclock a 128-bit memory bus into a 192-bit bus...
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I don't think that it's possible to overclock a 128-bit memory bus into a 192-bit bus...
Other than that ... I didn't notice that but smile.gif
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I got the 670 pe a while back before I updated from my old q6600. I couldn't get over 60fps in a game like MW3. Ended up getting 3570k and it blew me away how much a difference the cpu made. Don't make the same mistake I did. Get the cpu first then the card.
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Other than that ... I didn't notice that but smile.gif

Yeah, the new BOOST model is kinda deceptively named. Based on the "650 Ti" name attached to it, one would expect that perhaps the only change would be the addition of the boost clock and the performance would still be relatively anemic.

Of course upon further inspection, it's really closer to a "660 SE" due to the ROP count, default memory clock, and memory bus. I really think that NVIDIA did themselves a disservice in naming this card, and likely will have somewhat fewer sales of it due to less-conscientious buyers glossing over it and dismissing it out of hand.

Don't feel bad about about missing those details, though. You may be among the first, but you certainly won't be the last to do so. Now you know, and knowing is half the battle...
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I think the GTX 650Ti BOOST should of been named GTX 655Ti BOOST and call it a day thumb.gif
 
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