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For me personally, it's all about the story and the gameplay. Consoles have their place, and I'll probably buy a PS4 for its exclusives, which will never come to PC, now matter how powerful one's custom rig might be.

I fail to understand the obsession with "next-gen" graphics cards as well. In my opinion, it reflects the ignorance of most users to the nature of programming and the investment required to produce a game. Just because hardware exists to be able to push x polygons, it doesn't mean any games or software have been written or optimized for it. We're actually at a point where hardware power exceeds that which can be reasonably used by developers. Even the engines that exist can be seriously improved or optimized. Having sheer power available lets you be lazy and sloppy, and this is reflected in the PC game industry. Only a handful of developers are actually pushing the envelope, and again, are not even remotely close to optimized.

Furthermore, Increasing graphical fidelity and complexity doesn't scale linearly; rather, if you double how good something looks for instance, the time, money, and manpower invested is exponential. Game developers simply don't have the resources (or investor approval) to spend 4+ years on games, except maybe the rare, highly anticipated AAA-blockbuster. They're pressured to get something out the door as soon as possible. It'll be a few more years before we realistically *truly* saturate the capabilities of these systems, by which time, next-next-gen should be rolling around.

Using "mid-end" parts for the next generation of consoles was a great idea by Sony and Microsoft because it hits the "sweet spot"; cheap enough to be reasonable and powerful enough to satisfy games for the next several years. Anyone who thinks these graphics cards aren't good enough don't know much about programming and the actual game development process.
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Well, let's hope that this will provide HD textures. I am looking at you Darksiders....
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Then the PS4 has the upper hand in the GPU department easy.
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But it can't make miracles happen.

No doubt the so-called "next gen" (more like cheap pc) consoles will be far ahead of current consoles but they still won't have anything on a current high end rig. When we see a console running surround resolutions then we can talk.

At least we will hopefully have hi-res textures in PC console ports because of the new console hardware.

And a high end PC costs hundreds upon hundreds of dollars more than a console. I don't know why you people always brings this up. Build a $400 PC from scratch and compare it to a $400 next gen console. Then run a game that's been made for the vast array of varying PC configurations and the same game made specifically for the next gen console and see which is better.
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I forgot what GPU the PS4 has. What was it?

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I forgot what GPU the PS4 has. What was it?

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like a 7850 or something. minor adjustments. "lower this and raise that" sort of deal.
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I forgot what GPU the PS4 has. What was it?

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Hasn't been announced.
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Originally Posted by Coach Mcguirk View Post

I forgot what GPU the PS4 has. What was it?

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Last I heard it was something that would fall between a 7870 and 7850, a kind of "7860" if you will.

So it looks like PS4 is going to have a decent hardware lead. I would hope so, I like Sony a lot more than MS.

There are also rumors of 720 using 8 1.6ghz AMD cores, and rumors of PS4 using ~2.0ghz Jaguar cores. So PS4 might have 720 beat there too.

At least AMD got a free product out of MS R&D money. It's too bad GTX 650 Ti Boost is so much stronger than it at the same price.
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But it can't make miracles happen.

No doubt the so-called "next gen" (more like cheap pc) consoles will be far ahead of current consoles but they still won't have anything on a current high end rig. When we see a console running surround resolutions then we can talk.

At least we will hopefully have hi-res textures in PC console ports because of the new console hardware.

And a high end PC costs hundreds upon hundreds of dollars more than a console. I don't know why you people always brings this up. Build a $400 PC from scratch and compare it to a $400 next gen console. Then run a game that's been made for the vast array of varying PC configurations and the same game made specifically for the next gen console and see which is better.

More accurate would be to compare $400 next gen console + $400 - $500 pre-built desktop/laptop to an $800 - $900 gaming PC. Why? Because for most console-only gamers, a $400 console only plays games and they have to use that pre-built to do general purpose PC stuff with. That combined experience is cost as much as a decent gaming PC which potentially gives both a better gaming and general PC experience.
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And people saying consoles is going to be better. A 7790? Really my 660ti would smoke it

7790 is way better than x1ooo series that is in the 360. PC will always be better but, a 7790 would probably smoke the APU in the PS4.
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