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Hmmm...if this is true than the PS4 WILL be the console to get. I know that a while ago the CEO of Sony or someone high up said that the PS4 was being developed to be a power house. Sony already knew they were going to have the faster console.

Man, I can't wait to see some exclusives. Look at how damn good games like Uncharted look on the PS3...I can't even imagine what Uncharted 4 will look like. Absolutely eye bleeding incredible is my guess!
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Hmmm...if this is true than the PS4 WILL be the console to get. I know that a while ago the CEO of Sony or someone high up said that the PS4 was being developed to be a power house. Sony already knew they were going to have the faster console.

Man, I can't wait to see some exclusives. Look at how damn good games like Uncharted look on the PS3...I can't even imagine what Uncharted 4 will look like. Absolutely eye bleeding incredible is my guess!

The controller for the PS4 alone would keep me from buying it. Playstation controllers have always been an absolute pain for me to use. The whole symmetrical thing with the two sticks kills me. Not that it matters because I don't own and will never again own a console, but of the controllers I feel the 360's is far superior.
post #43 of 98
my 560ti is faster than a 7790...... cmon micosoft, grow a pair. your getting both the cpu and gpu from the same company and we all know AMD isn't charging much, beef up the GPU, It should be half the price of the console, nobody cares about the huge hard drive they can upgrade that on their own. when your going to be stuck with the same gpu for another 8 years it better be the best GPU the market can offer at that point in time of release, or better infact, like some type of special prototype. the amd version of titan.
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And people saying consoles is going to be better. A 7790? Really my 660ti would smoke it

And my Titans would smoke your 660ti. OHHHH PC elitist burned by another PC elitist.



I'm not acutally a PC elitist and I don't have SLI Titans, but now do you understand how dumb you sound? There is ALWAYS something more powerful than what you have.
Edited by Tempest2000 - 3/27/13 at 7:08am
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my 560ti is faster than a 7790...... cmon micosoft, grow a pair. your getting both the cpu and gpu from the same company and we all know AMD isn't charging much, beef up the GPU, It should be half the price of the console, nobody cares about the huge hard drive they can upgrade that on their own. when your going to be stuck with the same gpu for another 8 years it better be the best GPU the market can offer at that point in time of release, or better infact, like some type of special prototype. the amd version of titan.

Radeon HD 7790 is better than GTX 560ti and GTX 650ti... So calm down fanboy. If you don't like it then buy a PlayStation 4 that has GPU that is comparable between 7850 and 7870...
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And a high end PC costs hundreds upon hundreds of dollars more than a console. I don't know why you people always brings this up. Build a $400 PC from scratch and compare it to a $400 next gen console. Then run a game that's been made for the vast array of varying PC configurations and the same game made specifically for the next gen console and see which is better.

You don't need to look further back than the XBOX 360 launch and see what sort of a GPU that console had. It was pretty good for it's time, with features that came to PC much later.

I do understand why people keep saying that "console markers cannot afford another 599$ console", but it's not really that way around. Xbox 360 launched for less, a year earlier, and wasn't a hardware design failure. Sony had big plans with Cell, Blu-Ray, eventually having to resort to nVidia to bring in the graphics power with soon-to-be-outdated hardware.

This time around, the console GPUs are inferior to what they were at that time. It's not all that bad though, as people claim it to be. First thing is the resolution, TVs aren't going to move into 4k resolution just next year. 1080p is here to stay for a good while, especially since countries with outdated internet infrastructure such as the US would have difficulties in delivering the 1080p+ content.

People do overestimate the "to the metal" improvements of the hardware as well, though. We're talking of a roughly double the improvement, which will be done in within less than two years for the average PC gamer if the improvements keep at the same level as they have for so far. What happens, rather, is games being put into corridors, usingly ugly hacks and making game design choices to accommodate the hardware, for the sake of putting out better graphics. The movie-likeness of many modern games has it's roots here. With 8GB of GDDR5 this can be eliminated pretty well, especially if people dont go crazy over having extremely fine textures and stuff on everything.

The only new feature that I've seen to fight against this - "Graphics are the only thing we can show to the customer before he buys the game" - is the PS4's try-before-you-play feature. That can be gamebreaking. Otherwise, I don't really know what to say. If MS really wants to lock out the game with their "no used games" -policy, combined with focus on gimmicks such as kinect (no, the hw improvements aren't enough), I think they are in trouble. The only real value in services such as XBOX Live is the user base. If people realize how the service isn't all that great in many respects and don't migrate to that on the nextbox, the subscription-based service becomes utterly meaningless.

One of the biggest key things about next generation will be the pricing and the value customers feel they're getting. I don't buy many games new these days, seeing how something like Bioshock costs ~80€ if bought new (Game + Season Pass), I'm gladly waiting. The whole movement towards a service model is rather threatening for the whole industry, because everyone's going for the gold rush instead of thinking the best long-term solutions.
post #47 of 98
Seriously getting sick of this PC elitism seeping into every console thread. FFS people there's a few simple facts to understand that you seem to have trouble with

1) This is a CONSOLE with a MUCH LOWER PRICE POINT. No duh it's not going to perform on par with your top end PC, that's obvious
2) CONSOLES HAVE UNIFIED HARDWARE. That means that the developers can access hardware level coding and know that since the market is homogenous it will work fine on all systems with no issue BECAUSE ITS ALL USING THE SAME HARDWARE. VS PCs where you have hundreds if not more of possible configurations trying to run a game, which means they can't push the hardware anywhere near as hard as they could with a unified system.

Do some people just post in these threads just to troll/show their own ignorance?

Back to the topic, this will be interesting to see, though it seems like the PS4 has the edge in GPU and memory performance as of now. Either way I think the Wii U should be shakin in its' boots.
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7790 performance? That's not too bad!! In fact, it's quite decent for the price the machine will have! And to hell with it, it's more powerful than my current computer mad.gif
   
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post #49 of 98
Ugh this High end PC vs Console nonsense again. Can't turn-key gaming just be left alone? Majority of people just want to sit down, turn on and play a game then turn it off. They don't wanna spend the time piecing together a rig or trying to find the best pre-built THEN installing windows, installing AV, downloading steam, buying the games, waiting for the game to install, then trying to play the game, then getting a driver error, trying to find the issue, then downloading new driver, hoping the new driver works SO ON AND SO ON ffs.

So you have higher AA and a quicker response mouse and keyboard and OH EM GEE an Intel upgrade path. Some...wait..according to a few estimates THE MILLIONS of people who own consoles just wanna sit down and play. I am sure everyone is sorry the console install base is huge, I am sorry more money is to be made on a console once in awhile. Can you quit the crying now and just focus on the subject? Maybe if I add a smiley face thumb.gif this won't get reported like half the other ignorant responses people post on this professional forum.
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Seriously getting sick of this PC elitism seeping into every console thread. FFS people there's a few simple facts to understand that you seem to have trouble with

1) This is a CONSOLE with a MUCH LOWER PRICE POINT. No duh it's not going to perform on par with your top end PC, that's obvious
2) CONSOLES HAVE UNIFIED HARDWARE. That means that the developers can access hardware level coding and know that since the market is homogenous it will work fine on all systems with no issue BECAUSE ITS ALL USING THE SAME HARDWARE. VS PCs where you have hundreds if not more of possible configurations trying to run a game, which means they can't push the hardware anywhere near as hard as they could with a unified system.

Do some people just post in these threads just to troll/show their own ignorance?

Back to the topic, this will be interesting to see, though it seems like the PS4 has the edge in GPU and memory performance as of now. Either way I think the Wii U should be shakin in its' boots.


This is a PC centric website - it's to be expected. A few months ago I decided to make the change to playing (most) games on my PS3. I have my reasons for doing so. I've honestly been impressed with what an 8 year old console can do. I personally think DmC, Tomb Raider, God of War look excellent on my PS3. Of course it's not what my PC can do, but still it looks pretty good to me. Good enough.

And you know what? I bought Bioshock Infinite on PC. I spent more time last night trying to stop the stuttering/crash to desktop than actually playing. All the while, our console gaming counterparts were playing a game that just worked on their consoles.

As for the Wii U, it just needs core games. Granted, it lacks the power of the PS4, but it's still powerful enough to put out some nice games. I think it's great Bayonetta 2 will be on Wii U. But if Nintendo wants to stay relevant they need their own Killzone/Halo, Uncharted/Gearsof War, etc... Mario and Zelda are great, but I don't think they capture the interest of the hardcore crowd like Battlefront or Call of Duty.
Edited by Metalhead79 - 3/27/13 at 1:50pm
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