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From what it appears, AMD's cards are much lower priced and offer a good increase in performance over similar NVIDA cards. Is this an indication of NVIDIA falling behind or just that NVIDIA needs to come out with it's next gen to step it back up? From what it looks like though, AMD's cards prices at the moment can't be beat. I wanna hear some insight on this from the OCN community. thumb.gif
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Companies aren't in the habit of giving their products away cheaper than they have to. Which means if one company is significantly undercutting another, it probably means there is a general consensus that company's products aren't quite up to par.

In this particular instance, I would say that on average Nvidia has a slight performance advantage overall. But the difference in price is more significant than the difference in performance. Which makes AMD the much better value proposition. I would say there is nothing wrong with Nvidia cards in any respect. They may however need to re-evaluate what their products are worth.
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Are you seriously going to start this discussion? rolleyes.gif

Yes, Nvidia is falling behind (sarcasm) ... They have Gk110.

The only reason why they appear to be declining is because they sold GK104 as top-end and laughed all the way to the bank selling GK110 for supercomputers

Before TITAN, everyone kept saying that GK110 was never a consumer GPU.
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It is quite sad how AMD offers products that have similar or better performance for the less money but people buy Nvidia since it has better marketing and people look at CUDA and Physix that are really not needed. Nvidia pays game companies to implement Physx that really it has some great effects and particles but it hampers down the performance significantly more than ingame particles and effects on the nearly the same level... Havok is better and more mature.

AMD offers better performance for the money and now for the value thanks to Never Settle offer.

I facepalmed when Nvidia offered codes for ingame currencies in free2play(pay2win) games, rofl.

Nvidia has larger share but I would like to see 50/50 then we would see more serious innovations and progress. Similary applies to CPU section in one way or another.
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Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post

Are you seriously going to start this discussion? rolleyes.gif

Yes, Nvidia is falling behind (sarcasm) ... They have Gk110.

The only reason why they appear to be declining is because they sold GK104 as top-end and laughed all the way to the bank selling GK110 for supercomputers

Before TITAN, everyone kept saying that GK110 was never a consumer GPU.

in before the red army rises to defend the claim that tahiti XL competed with a midrange GPU.
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Is this an indication of NVIDIA falling behind or just that NVIDIA needs to come out with it's next gen to step it back up?

Neither.
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It is quite sad how AMD offers products that have similar or better performance for the less money but people buy Nvidia since it has better marketing and people look at CUDA and Physix that are really not needed. Nvidia pays game companies to implement Physx that really it has some great effects and particles but it hampers down the performance significantly more than ingame particles and effects on the nearly the same level... Havok is better and more mature.

AMD offers better performance for the money and now for the value thanks to Never Settle offer.

I facepalmed when Nvidia offered codes for ingame currencies in free2play(pay2win) games, rofl.

Nvidia has larger share but I would like to see 50/50 then we would see more serious innovations and progress. Similary applies to CPU section in one way or another.

Totally agree, it makes you wonder what more AMD can do, right now they have the price VS performance at every level of card, and bundled with awesome games. Yet still Nvidia seem to be outselling AMD. I only bought a Titan because I wanted a capable single card for 1440P, (Don't like dual card setups personally) Once they can launch something competitive with Titan maybe Nvidia will have to drop the Titan's price, but knowng Nvidia it's doubtful lol. If AMD had a Titan alternative right now I wouldn't of bought the Titan. If I was buying a card at any other price point for 1080P for example, AMD would of got my money...
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Originally Posted by vampirr View Post

It is quite sad how AMD offers products that have similar or better performance for the less money but people buy Nvidia since it has better marketing and people look at CUDA and Physix that are really not needed. Nvidia pays game companies to implement Physx that really it has some great effects and particles but it hampers down the performance significantly more than ingame particles and effects on the nearly the same level... Havok is better and more mature.

AMD offers better performance for the money and now for the value thanks to Never Settle offer.

I facepalmed when Nvidia offered codes for ingame currencies in free2play(pay2win) games, rofl.

Nvidia has larger share but I would like to see 50/50 then we would see more serious innovations and progress. Similary applies to CPU section in one way or another.

AMD is winning on the price/performance side because they can't sell their cards at the same price as Nvidia even when they are slightly superior.

Do you really think that AMD cut prices because they are nice guys and like us enthusiasts? LOL.

This is a game and it's all about the money, specifically how much they can get out of us. Nothing more.
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Keyser Soze... I totally agree, but I facepalm when I know how people are illiterate about computers and believe those commercials...

They are like sheep's, its 21 century and they don't know it or do some research and since one side is more prevalent so the fanboy population is larger there and trash like i3 beats FX 8350 and I am thinking: Are you kidding me? Really? (facepalm)

Intel is great, Nvidia is great, AMD is great... Anyway the current market balance is really screwed up thanks to Intel and its dirty tricks...mad.gif
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