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Errr, at the point of sounding thick, what was your point? Looks like Titans at the top of your spreadsheet to me thumb.gif

What was my point, are you serious?

4 x Titan = 4,300$
4 x 7970 = 1,600$ at max.

So you are saying its normal for 4 x Titan to only win by few decimal fps. 192,7 VS 192,3

My point was scaling issue.

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1 x Titan = 75 fps (average)
1 x 7970 = 55 fps (average)

How come you explain they barely win with 4 x Titan, if its not scaling issue, what it is then?

Don't get me wrong, if I wanted single card (or even Dual Titan), I would be all over those Titan. Titan is pure power and its the truth. wink.gif
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post #142 of 156
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Oh yeah, I forgot, its fine when Nvidia drivers are crap, but when its AMD, lets bash them, this is called biased again. Thank you for confirming my affirmations.

Comparing a less than a month old card to an over a year old card doh.gif Don't get me wrong , i'm not a fanboy of either i just buy whichever is cheaper but ofcourse a less than a month old card is going to have a ****load of drivers problems compared to a card that has been out for over a year , just saiyain rolleyes.gif
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post #143 of 156
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Already an excuse thumb.gif

Can't accept the scaling issues heh?



70$?? I think it was 235$ for the boost (sarcasm)

Why does Nvidia charges 1000$ for binned tesla chip? (Throttling) Its because they care so much about their customers (sarcasm again)

The scaling sucks, yes. But his point is still valid, if the drivers just throwing out crappy frames (it is) to get more raw FPS and those frames are leading to a bad experience, what is the actual results? You're looking at misleading information, its a frame, but are all frames equal? The answer is no.

I know you've been trolling the Titan threads to watch this pretty close, so I know you're aware titan wasn't built to put out max raw FPS all the time like the 7970 was. My question to you is why are you so vehemently disagreeing with people who say the titans are on top? We know we overpaid for binned teslas, and that in the current state you need to play with the cards to make them work better than they are factory delivered. The frametimes with the titan are never sacrificed and I haven't had this smooth of a gaming experience ever and I have been on both sides of the road. 9800 Pro -> 8800GT SLI -> 4890 CFX -> gtx670 4gb -> Titan

PS your numbers are the 1080p bench.. hardly where the titan shines frown.gif
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post #144 of 156
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Why people talk about the 7970 Ghz edition, its the same freaking thing as the 7970 but with a different BIOS, the architechture and everything is the same.

On the other side, all GTX 680 have integrated boost. But people will not mention about these boost.

Just to remind to you people. AMD released their 79xx series MONTHS before the GTX 680 and GTX 670. So yeah, they didn't need any kind of boost or anything. Few months later Nvidia released their GTX 680 with higher clocks and AMD only needed a small little BIOS to equal or beat them.

So stop saying the GHz edition GHZ edition GHz edition.

I have myself 7970 reference and I don't need the Ghz BIOS to beat all other GTX 680. Especially the scaling. Oh yeah, sorry, its true, its not right to talk about negative points of Nvidia, people will bash and insult me. 4 x Titan barely beats 4 x 7970s.

We were talking about a stock, out of the box test because that's what the original question was.

And yes, we all know the chips are the same but out of the box one will beat a 680 and one won't.
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post #145 of 156
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Originally Posted by Avonosac View Post

The scaling sucks, yes. But his point is still valid, if the drivers just throwing out crappy frames (it is) to get more raw FPS and those frames are leading to a bad experience, what is the actual results? You're looking at misleading information, its a frame, but are all frames equal? The answer is no.

I know you've been trolling the Titan threads to watch this pretty close, so I know you're aware titan wasn't built to put out max raw FPS all the time like the 7970 was. My question to you is why are you so vehemently disagreeing with people who say the titans are on top? We know we overpaid for binned teslas, and that in the current state you need to play with the cards to make them work better than they are factory delivered. The frametimes with the titan are never sacrificed and I haven't had this smooth of a gaming experience ever and I have been on both sides of the road. 9800 Pro -> 8800GT SLI -> 4890 CFX -> gtx670 4gb -> Titan

PS your numbers are the 1080p bench.. hardly where the titan shines frown.gif

Don't call me troll dude. (I haven't check the Titan thread for a while, I have been trying to put back people to their unbiased place lately)

Where did I say Titan wasn't on top?

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Originally Posted by KaRLiToS View Post


Don't get me wrong, if I wanted single card (or even Dual Titan), I would be all over those Titan. Titan is pure power and its the truth. wink.gif

I will never be victim of fanboyism. In my opinion, both companies are equal.

I don't want people to be AMD Versus Nvidia, I want it to be AMD and NVIDIA Versus US, customers

We are all PC!
Edited by KaRLiToS - 3/27/13 at 9:13am
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"Ask any racer, any real racer. It doesnt matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning's winning."
 
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post #147 of 156
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Originally Posted by KaRLiToS View Post

Don't call me troll dude.

Oh calm down, it means reading in that context.

Language gap. doh.giflachen.gif

P.S. you were implying by the very nature of your post that 4x 7970s were better because of max frames, I'm saying your very statement of raw FPS scores to say which is best is invalid because AMDs drivers throw out crapy frames in between good ones, and do it in a very inconsistent manner.
Edited by Avonosac - 3/27/13 at 9:13am
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Already an excuse thumb.gif

Can't accept the scaling issues heh?


w.overclock.net/content/type/61/id/1374583/width/5000/height/10000[/IMG]
70$??

Why does Nvidia charges 1000$ for binned tesla chip? (Throttling) Its because they care so much about their customers (sarcasm again)

so AMD charged people 70 bucks more for the SAME exact card? not binned...just the same.

lol praise AMD
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post #149 of 156
I'd like to see a poll that simply asked-

If the 7970 3gb and GTX680 2gb were the 'exact same price' (and within your budget) which one would you pick?

I would make the poll myself except it would turn into a flamewar within minutes and I'd be accused of trollin'. Shame you can't create a poll and lock the posting portion of the thread.
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post #150 of 156
The only reason I always prefer Nvidia is their drivers. For me Nvidia driver work better with less problems than ATI's. Nvidia is not even close falling behind AMD any time soon. They can still sell their products expensive which means they are doing well in sales. AMD offers cards cheaper because its the only way to fight Nvidia. Companies are greedy and this is normal. They are not charity organisms to offer free products. When a company sells cheaps it means it has problems with their sales and its the best way to fight for more more sales. I used both companies and their cards and from what I see is that Nvidia has way better drivers in overall. ATI's hardware is still good ofc.
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