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Not with a 3570K and that board you won't.

Many 3570s will manage those speeds, but depends on the IMC so no guarantees. The 3770k have had better IMCs on average but there are still quite a few great 3570s out there.
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the cl9 is not much faster?

The cl9 is a better bin, & will likely overclock a bit better than the cl10 kit.
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Luck of the day that's for sure. I don't think TridentX sticks will fit under a NH-D14 and a extreme6 never means you will get extreme4 memory speeds and perhaps he was talking about 2666 and 2800. With a ASRock you probably won't be able to do 2666 or 2800

Cooling fans and "high performance heat spreaders" should have been dead and done since DDR3 came out. It's not like DDR3 spews out 5W per stick
A simple heatspreader should be all you need something like the ones on ARES sticks or HyperX Genesis sticks

Ivan beat me to it but I'm running trident X under a D14 now, with the top fin removed it's a tight fit to get the first stick in but it does barely fit. 2 x 4Gb, haven't tried getting a stick into the dimm slot closest to the cpu, should work but I haven't tried it.
Agreed that heatspreaders aren't very useful until the voltage is really up there, they do start to get warm at 1.8 - 1.9V.
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The samsungs last time i checked is 59.99USD. Will outdo everything priced like that smile.gif

Except the older PSC kits off ebay. I got a dual channel 1600Mhz 6-8-6 1.65V kit that does 2400Mhz 9-11-9 at 1.68V for $3.14, bit less than $15 shipped. Good kits are getting harder to find though.
For new 2 x 4Gb sticks off the shelf the samsung is a steal & overclocks very well, hard to beat the price/performance for a new kit but not hard to beat the performance with a better kit (just costs more), or a good used kit.
    
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They will do 2400MHz CL9-11-10-3X or something @ 1.52V. Can't beat that wink.gif and perhaps isn't 1.7V+ a bit dangerous? For my board it's listed in red actually
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They will do 2400MHz CL9-11-10-3X or something @ 1.52V. Can't beat that wink.gif and perhaps isn't 1.7V+ a bit dangerous? For my board it's listed in red actually

Some can, I grabbed a couple kits of the sammy green to play with, 2400 & higher can post but almost impossible to get stable. Luck of the draw with the kits.
Not the boards since better kits & even the 1600Mhz PSC kits run 2400 & more stabilized easily.

1.7V isn't particularly dangerous with ivy bridge, sandy bridge was much weaker in the IMC, I didn't want to use more than 1.75V with sandy, but ivy I would use 1.75 daily without hesitation, & higher for short periods.
    
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I run 1.7v and 1.75v daily on my 3770k...depending on the ram kit.
I fold at 1.7v, 24/7 (when not benching)
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Many 3570s will manage those speeds, but depends on the IMC so no guarantees. The 3770k have had better IMCs on average but there are still quite a few great 3570s out there.

Ivan beat me to it but I'm running trident X under a D14 now, with the top fin removed it's a tight fit to get the first stick in but it does barely fit. 2 x 4Gb, haven't tried getting a stick into the dimm slot closest to the cpu, should work but I haven't tried it.

I thought the 3570K might be didn't think Asrock Extreme4 +6 could handle it. G.Skill on their site only validates up to 1866 @ 1.5v.
The Tridents are 39mm without the heatspreaders and NH-D14 has 44mm to the bottom heatsink fin. But the fan in normal position hangs below but can be moved up.


Edited by kpo6969 - 3/27/13 at 4:47pm
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I thought the 3570K might be didn't think Asrock Extreme4 +6 could handle it. G.Skill on their site only validates up to 1866 @ 1.5v.
The Tridents are 39mm without the heatspreaders and NH-D14 has 44mm to the bottom heatsink fin. But the fan in normal position hangs below but can be moved up.

Just be careful, you will get slightly less dissipation efficiency when you move to fan up, the fan overhangs 2-4mm in normal position so you will nearly hit the fan if you install a 40mm RAM stick like Ripjaws series
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Nothing too drastic really...1c more?
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Nothing too drastic really...1c more?
Probably that biggrin.gif
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I thought the 3570K might be didn't think Asrock Extreme4 +6 could handle it. G.Skill on their site only validates up to 1866 @ 1.5v.
The Tridents are 39mm without the heatspreaders and NH-D14 has 44mm to the bottom heatsink fin. But the fan in normal position hangs below but can be moved up.


I have my d14 oriented to push from back to front, so no fan over the memory, it blows over the memory.
I did just try getting the trident X into the first dimm slot under the d14, it does go in, have to angle it into the slot & straighten it is it goes in, but it works.

I'm really starting to dislike this z77 ud3h, worst board for memory overclocking I have used yet. 2400, 2600, 2800mhz memory runs, & runs stable, reboots no problem. Then I shut the board down, & no matter what memory kit is in it, have to start back at 2133mhz to POST again, then overclock it & it works fine until the next shut down...
    
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The Z77-D3H was plaqued by problems booting i wouldn't expect the UD3H to do much better biggrin.gif
Decent board onwards is a Z77X-D3H or a UD series
Just make sure ya really got the fan blowing towards the rear though biggrin.gif
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