Originally Posted by WorldExclusive
The skill argument is tired. I played all of those games you listed and did well, and I continue to do well in modern shooters.
Either someone get with the times or be left behind.
Hard =/ fun. The greater majority doesn't want to grind for countless hours. Fun equals higher profit and mainstream appeal, high difficulty equals lower profit and limited appeal.
A game should be challenging up to a set level, basically teaching the player how to be better. A few people that dominate every round isn't fun.
This PC gamer virus of "the harder the better" is one of the reasons why consoles earn more money than PC.
This man speaks much truth. PC gaming, although not dying, does not generate as much appeal as console to a larger audience. Furthermore, there is less interaction in those communities outside of the game. The skill argument is not a good argument. If skill was the best factor for a game, do you think many people would buy it?
Originally Posted by Alatar
Because for me it was the last BF game that I actually had fun with. I'm not saying it's the best BF game of all time, I'm just saying that's it's a somewhat recent title that I really enjoy playing.
I had fun with BF3 and BC2 for a while, but got bored pretty quickly. Most FPS 'skills' translate pretty well from title to title, which is unlike most other genres.
Originally Posted by Raven.7
Yes, the times of brainless entertainment.
I can't wait to see how much more worthless society will become.
I don't really see how this really affects society. This is one or two franchises trying to win the money of an audience.
Originally Posted by RKTGX95
*waves his little Team Fortress 2 hat silently*
Games are generally for entertainment as previously stated by WorldExclusive
and the skill argument does get annoying after a while. While some might be entertained by accomplishment of a good challenge which requires skill the bigger portion of the market doesn't usually go in the same way. i enjoyed CoD back in the days when Single Player mattered (which for some reason is a taboo today), and that includes CoD 1, CoD UO (expansion pack), CoD 4 (which was decent though i like more the WW2 theme. also, the last game to get numbered according to the whole series
) and CoD (5) WaW (was kinda fun, mainly the flamethrowers
). never touched the multiplayer except a few rare times in CoD2 wheere i could find a server and even then it's TDM which isn't THAT enjoyable to me.
never had experience in the BF series though i remember that many friends of mine played 2142 and maybe BF2 or BC2 so i know it was enjoyable too.
To me a TF2 is a good game because it is enjoyable and simple (casual) but can also require skill and teamplay if desired. (more teamplay than skill)
Also, how could you not like HATZ
Team Fortress is such a good game <3
Originally Posted by dman811
I like most
games in the CoD series, I also like the BF series. Does it mean I am the devil incarnate? No, I just like various games, and for very strategic games, I love Arma. I like single player, and multiplayer games. If I buy a game for it's multiplayer, I will mostly play that, but I will play the single player when running the generator in a power outage. If I buy a game for its single player, I will play it until it is beaten, then I will play the multiplayer (if it has one). I might be a weird one, but I have always thought myself to be weird, and I never cared what anyone thought about my opinions or actions.
Originally Posted by thestache
Typical EA/DICE. Disregard the loyal supporters and simply concentrate on the target audience. Their arrogance is shocking.
No. They're disregarding the minority, and appeasing the majority. Their arrogance is really just business sense.