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Originally Posted by BiG StroOnZ View Post

That's because you don't know what you are talking about.

BF4 hacking scene is rampant. Just because you cant see it doesn't mean someone who has extensive knowledge with the hacks being used in the game can.

If you think someone with natural aim and control will not lose to someone with no spread and no recoil that just proves how much you don't know what you are talking about. Case in point.

Have you tested out these hacks? Do you have an average understanding of the scores you get during each round after using these hacks? No you don't. I do, because I've been working with Even Balance to get rid of these scum bags.

If you have played 400 hours and only seen one hacker that just proves you have no idea what to look for or what hackers look like. I see them every single game. This is the ignorance I'm talking about. It's delusional thinking in the community that their game is any better than CoD when it comes to hacking. It isn't. Stop defending something you have no experience with. I'm relaying this information to you for a reason.

Hacking Forums have multiple hacks that are undetected. Each hack has over 20,000 views. Even if only half of the people who looked at it downloaded it. That's still 10,000 potential hackers. The main hacks have over 100,000 views. Do the math, it's not really that complicated at all. Use some logic.

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What part of horizontal spread/recoil being random in this game are you struggling with? You are obviously convinced by your own melodrama. A programme can not account for random, no recoil and no spread can be achieved by using simple mouse software, otherwise known as macro which can not account for random either. A player whom can aim and control is in the same position naturally in bf4 although I accept it was rampant in bf3. The only weapon software that would give advantage would be the ones that alter the firing of the guns, so burst to full auto and so on. No need to buy into the " hacker in every game conspiracy" . I call nonsense and that is my opinion regardless of what you have to say.


In all honesty, coming from a critical standpoint: I've seen very FEW hackers in BF4 in comparison to BF3.
I'm SURE they're hackers around, and have experienced them (especially in the BETA) but apart from that - haven't noticed anything.
I played over 300hrs on XBOX on BF3 -> not a single hacker in those 300hrs.
I played 85hrs on PC on BF3 and I encountered probably over 50-80 hackers in that time period (I'm not lying about the figures).
I played over 35hrs of the BETA on BF4 on PC and encountered 3-5 hackers.
I've played 120hrs of BF4 (final release) and encountered maybe less than 3 hackers in that time.

Whatever EA did, seems like they did a good job countering hackers.
I do play on PB servers and server I trust (ie corsair UK servers)
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Lol there is only one person in this communication who has blazed into this thread with an ego and is certainly not me. Like I said, imo your talking nonsense. No one denies there are hackers but neither do I accept your idea's.

@Thoth, yes correct. In terms of no recoil/no spread, they may well look good on you tube shooting walls but in game it is effected by many factors which you well know, suppression, random scope sway, screen shaking and the way this game calculates horizontal recoil or spread is random.

You're ego about being so knowledgeable on the subject is why it's you. You keep talking about factors in the game that make it seem like you know what you are talking about. While I'm sitting here explaining to you I've used multiple versions of No Recoil, No Spread, and No Breath and they work absolutely flawlessly with not an ounce of random factors being involved in them.

You don't have to accept my ideas, that's because you are another stubborn BF4 player that can't accept the truth about the game they play. Not my problem, you keep playing against hackers and turn your cheek the other way. I'll keep doing my job of getting rid of them to make the community more legitimate. If you want to be a part of the problem by simply turning away, that's fine you can be the majority but I'm not that type of person. I don't just let cheaters and hackers ruin a hobby of mine so easily. If you think it has anything to do with my skill, then you couldn't be any more wrong. I have a 78% Win Ratio, and 2.20 KD that constantly climbs. I have thorough experience with every hack that exists. They even have hacks that are completely impossible to detect. ESP Hacks through your Android or iPhone. Don't argue with someone with experience with the claims they are making. They are making the claims they are making not to cause controversy but to make the public aware of the problem.
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You're ego about being so knowledgeable on the subject is why it's you. You keep talking about factors in the game that make it seem like you know what you are talking about. While I'm sitting here explaining to you I've used multiple versions of No Recoil, No Spread, and No Breath and they work absolutely flawlessly with not an ounce of random factors being involved in them.

You don't have to accept my ideas, that's because you are another stubborn BF4 player that can't accept the truth about the game they play. Not my problem, you keep playing against hackers and turn your cheek the other way. I'll keep doing my job of getting rid of them to make the community more legitimate. If you want to be a part of the problem by simply turning away, that's fine you can be the majority but I'm not that type of person. I don't just let cheaters and hackers ruin a hobby of mine so easily. If you think it has anything to do with my skill, then you couldn't be any more wrong. I have a 78% Win Ratio, and 2.20 KD that constantly climbs. I have thorough experience with every hack that exists. They even have hacks that are completely impossible to detect. ESP Hacks through your Android or iPhone. Don't argue with someone with experience with the claims they are making. They are making the claims they are making not to cause controversy but to make the public aware of the problem.

At no point did I say there is no hacks, you claim is every game, I call nonsense. No one mentioned your skill, I do not buy into the popular theory only people with avg stats call hacks. This is an open discussion forum where opinions will differ, and every one is entitled to one regardless of your claimed insider knowledge.
Edited by Ghost12 - 3/8/14 at 9:50am
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I don't know whether it is hacking or just bugged killcard, but there sure do seem to be a lot of headshot deaths lately. Played Metro the other day and had more than 10 single hit headshots from multiple weapons. Got headshot by a M320, which I didn't think was possible. Seemed pretty suspicious to me.
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I don't know whether it is hacking or just bugged killcard, but there sure do seem to be a lot of headshot deaths lately. Played Metro the other day and had more than 10 single hit headshots from multiple weapons. Got headshot by a M320, which I didn't think was possible. Seemed pretty suspicious to me.

That headshot icon is bugged and has been since its introduction, my opinion it was borught in to dampen the fury regards the 1 shot deaths or apparent 1 shot deaths, I have been killed in action and has shown the icon. Not to say it was not hackers you faced but that is how I believe is working or not in the current build. The way this game works is much harder to tell hack from genuine as we all know can not even deliver legitimate deaths correctly to the player.
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Originally Posted by BiG StroOnZ View Post

You're ego about being so knowledgeable on the subject is why it's you. You keep talking about factors in the game that make it seem like you know what you are talking about. While I'm sitting here explaining to you I've used multiple versions of No Recoil, No Spread, and No Breath and they work absolutely flawlessly with not an ounce of random factors being involved in them.

You don't have to accept my ideas, that's because you are another stubborn BF4 player that can't accept the truth about the game they play. Not my problem, you keep playing against hackers and turn your cheek the other way. I'll keep doing my job of getting rid of them to make the community more legitimate. If you want to be a part of the problem by simply turning away, that's fine you can be the majority but I'm not that type of person. I don't just let cheaters and hackers ruin a hobby of mine so easily. If you think it has anything to do with my skill, then you couldn't be any more wrong. I have a 78% Win Ratio, and 2.20 KD that constantly climbs. I have thorough experience with every hack that exists. They even have hacks that are completely impossible to detect. ESP Hacks through your Android or iPhone. Don't argue with someone with experience with the claims they are making. They are making the claims they are making not to cause controversy but to make the public aware of the problem.


I'll be honest, I've never touched a hack, and am immediately suspicious of anyone ^^^who admits they have. Unless they actually receive a paycheck from PB or dice, than if you do please accept my apology, if you don't, than in all honesty it's not your place to be "testing" hacks or bashing people who don't notice hacking BECAUSE they have never USED them personally.
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I don't know whether it is hacking or just bugged killcard, but there sure do seem to be a lot of headshot deaths lately. Played Metro the other day and had more than 10 single hit headshots from multiple weapons. Got headshot by a M320, which I didn't think was possible. Seemed pretty suspicious to me.

It is possible to get a headshot with a M320 HE.
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he said he is working with evenbalance.
i have screamed hack since the beginning. i love how i can spawn on my flag behind a wall in a building or in a hall with no tugs around, no mav around, and yet the tanker with no thermals blows a hole in the wall and me 2 seconds after i spawn.
its most evident after spawning in a building thats your capped flag. spawn in b on firestorm, a guy runs around the corner of the door and bapbapbap youre dead.
its too hard for most people to spot hacks in this craptastic-client/server-cant-communicate-fast-enough-fail of a fps game. bad players are bad. good players are accused. great players are 50/50 cheaters. hell good players have a good chance of being cheaters.

play the game. the cheaters dont really do anything but crap on your stats. as has been proven over and over, stats mean nothing in this game.
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@BiG StroOnZ take your hack talk and your personal experience outta here, no-one here here gives a &^%$ if you have tried hacks, just makes you look like a loser.

Also I can't see any talk about hacks til you said
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What's with Battlefield 4 players being in denial about hackers
, great way to start a conversation kookoo.gif

PB accept submissions, and some people buy them just to submit to help out the community, but I don't understand your angle here here - why come in here with such hostility??

Not much going on at PB lately , so why the rant?

I think you have spent too much time on cheat forums.

Edit: No-one said there were no hackers, and working with PB... - lol I could say that too, just cause I make a submission, means nothing.
Edited by daguardian - 3/8/14 at 10:22am
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That headshot icon is bugged and has been since its introduction, my opinion it was borught in to dampen the fury regards the 1 shot deaths or apparent 1 shot deaths, I have been killed in action and has shown the icon. Not to say it was not hackers you faced but that is how I believe is working or not in the current build. The way this game works is much harder to tell hack from genuine as we all know can not even deliver legitimate deaths correctly to the player.

My assumption is that it's bugged (again) since it has been my worse since the latest patch, but it's very annoying in any case. Run around the corner, see someone and start firing at the same time (or what appears to be the same time anyway) and get headshot killed before my gun has even fired a round.
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