Originally Posted by the9quad
I'll be honest, I've never touched a hack, and am immediately suspicious of anyone ^^^who admits they have. Unless they actually receive a paycheck from PB or dice, than if you do please accept my apology, if you don't, than in all honesty it's not your place to be "testing" hacks or bashing people who don't notice hacking BECAUSE they have never USED them personally.
I have been talking with an employee at Even Balance on and off for a few months. I contact him personally when I have new information. When I acquire source codes from hacks through forums from members, when they release work arounds, screen shot blockers, personal encoders that encode the hacks to make them more hidden. I submit all my information to this person, as well as constant updates that the hacks receive. I do not test them out in the sense that I use them on my personal account, I have another account that is purely for testing that I notified the person at Even Balance that I use to prove that the hack is still not detected. This lets them know that the counter measures they are taking is not working because that account still has yet to be banned. I don't receive a check from Even Balance, I'm doing this all on my free time to make the community better. I don't see how I need to get payed because I'm doing a much better job at discovering hacks than any of those employees could have dreamed of because I know exactly where to look.
Originally Posted by daguardian @BiG StroOnZ
take your hack talk and your personal
experience outta here, no-one here here gives a &^%$ if you have tried hacks, just makes you look like a loser.
Also I can't see any talk about hacks til you said
, great way to start a conversation
PB accept submissions, and some people buy them just to submit to help out the community, but I don't understand your angle here here - why come in here with such hostility??
Not much going on at PB lately
, so why the rant?
I think you have spent too much time on cheat forums.
Edit: No-one said there were no hackers, and working with PB... - lol I could say that too, just cause I make a submission, means nothing.
Testing out hacks to prove that they aren't detected makes me a loser? So every single person at Even Balance therefore is a loser when they use hacks to see if their process of detection is faulty. Good Logic there bud. I dont give a damn if you care about whether or not I tried hacks. That's totally irrelevant and you aren't even reading in between the lines because your so blinded by your own ignorance about the subject. Do not argue with someone who has personal experience with a subject. All it does it make YOU LOOK LIKE A DAMN LOSER AND A FOOL because you are trying to defend a subject you have no personal experience on. I can have this argument, because I KNOW. You do not, and that's the issue here.
PB Accepts submissions, that's different then talking to employees on a personal level on a weekly basis. They have not done any of the updates of the submissions that I have recently sent (and the updates for PB are not that frequent because they do silent bans now). That's why you haven't seen a large ban yet. But it's coming and that list is going to look a lot different than it does now. You are looking at Punkbusters ban list trying to use that as evidence that there aren't any hackers. Are you that freaking dense? Seriously, the hacks aren't detected that I'm talking about. How in the world are you going to see a ban list of people using a hack that isn't detected. Could you get any more stupid? Or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? Or is it maybe you are a hacker and trying to use the same tactics that every other player does?
I'm not just making submissions. At first it began like that but then when one of the workers there realized how much information I had on them he asked me to help on a personal level and because I have access to this information at my finger tips. Since I have been playing FPS since I was a kid and knew about most of these websites for 13 years. Many of them are Russian, German, and hosted outside the USA.
Originally Posted by pc-illiterate
omg people have talked about 'hacks' in this thread before. he is probably also talking about bf4 players in general. say someone is cheating in a server and 99.99% of the time all you here is denial about hacks and accusations of you being horrible.
and please read the reason he has played with cheats.
people fail to read both the forums and game chat.
This is the type of reaction that I'm talking about that only happens in BF4. In Call of Duty when you call someone out for hacking the whole damn server agrees with you. In this game when you call someone out for hacking, they deny the existence of it happening and say you are "horrible or terrible." That's the type of attitude this BF4 Community has towards hackers. And the reason that is, is because one of two things.
A) They are really that stupid and ignorant
B) They are using hacks themselves, and therefore to make the community seem like it doesn't exist they dissuade other players from trying to believe it is happening. So they use the same repetitive reaction towards calling someone out. "Dude you're just terrible, Dude you're bad, Dude, you horrible." That's the type of attitude these players have and you know what I'm starting to think it's because of the fact that they are using some type of cheat or hack also (besides the person getting called out) that it makes them automatically reply in that manner to try to make someone feel stupid even though they got called out on their BS.
Originally Posted by mtbiker033
bigger the game the more you will have it seems
That's the thing, BF4 has such a gigantic community compared to CoD on the PC. I don't see how people can't use basic logic and mathematics to comprehend it. Like I said, the main hacks on these forums have 100,000 views. It doesn't take a mathematician to figure out how many possible hackers that is.
Did I mention that every single forum has updates on their threads that warn the users on a daily basis whether or not the hack is detected yet? So you wonder how they keep going on cheating. They are a community just like OCN. There's a lot of minds at work, it's not all that complicated to understand.
You know how a spy works, that's all I'm doing here. All this is, is counterintelligence that I'm doing. You have to infiltrate the system to bring it down from the inside, as opposed to trying to make change from the outside looking in.Edited by BiG StroOnZ - 3/8/14 at 2:34pm