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Originally Posted by Lhotse View Post

I'll be so glad when they nerf that LVG noob tube in the next patch. That weapon is so unrealistic, stupid and huwaaaay OP. mad.gif

It's not unrealistic per se, it's the maps. In real life you don't have 60+ people fighting out in 5x5 rooms where grenades are lethal. Nerf is justified though.
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It's not unrealistic per se,

In real-life combat, launched grenades never carom off hard walls or not like tennis balls anyway, like they do in BF 4. rolleyes.gif Grenade launchers are used like 'mini-mortars' to drop ordinance over walls and at greater distance than they can be thrown. I should know, I earned my Expert badge with the M203 40 mm grenade launcher in the U.S. Army. It really is a stupid and OP game feature. Understand that I get that this is not a combat simulator like Arma but launchable grenades that can be bounced around corners is just absurd. They should just get rid of it completely.
Edited by Lhotse - 3/27/14 at 12:22pm
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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed View Post

There's a clear difference to me as a gamer, between OP, over used and teamwork. AC130 was devastating as it was, now it's just ridiculous, commander just spam spawns it too.
Sorry, I can't agree on that. Useless by DICE, absolutely useless. I would say disappointing, but I'm already well passed that with this game

Vehicles just spawn way too fast in general. How they expect to have a useful call in and balance it with insta spawn I have no idea.
I think that is just the general issue with BF4 right now. It doesn't know if it is a Infantry centric game, vehicle, or just a spam session.

That is why I generally feel that games where vehicles are very powerful but difficult to acquire have incredible gameplay. Being able to constantly spam things just makes for more spam.
Striving to get that super heavy tank, despite your team losing, because you know it can help push the enemy just that little tiny bit is totally missed in BF4.
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In real-life combat, launched grenades never carom off hard walls or not like tennis balls anyway, like they do in BF 4. rolleyes.gif Grenade launchers are used like 'mini-mortars' to drop ordinance over walls and at greater distance than they can be thrown. I should know, I earned my Expert badge with the M203 40 mm grenade launcher in the U.S. Army. It really is a stupid and OP game feature. Understand that I get that this is not a combat simulator like Arma but launchable grenades that can be bounced around corners is just absurd. They should just get rid of it completely.

Really though the only map anyone ever uses it on is Metro. And there are already a ton of non-explosive metro servers to choose from if you want to avoid M320 spam. In the big scheme of things, to me at least, the M320 isn't really an issue. Everyone that chooses to join a metro server that allows explosives knows what they're getting into.
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Really though the only map anyone ever uses it on is Metro. And there are already a ton of non-explosive metro servers to choose from if you want to avoid M320 spam. In the big scheme of things, to me at least, the M320 isn't really an issue. Everyone that chooses to join a metro server that allows explosives knows what they're getting into.

Complete bs, in a sense. I have joined some of these so called "Non-Explosive Metro servers and Locker servers." There are still explosives like no tomorrow.
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Yeah the crappy part is you can't make a class without Andes or explosives for these servers, I retailiated in one and got a nice multi off it which included the a$$ that got me to begin with and got booted from the server lol
 
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Complete bs, in a sense. I have joined some of these so called "Non-Explosive Metro servers and Locker servers." There are still explosives like no tomorrow.

All the ones I've played have admins and plugins that kill you for 1st offense and kick for the 2nd. If its non explosive and people are using them just never play there again and choose another. Not that big of a deal. Not sure how my comment is complete bs...rolleyes.gif
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on no explosives servers they can spam flashbangs which still do considerable damage to you.
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Really though the only map anyone ever uses it on is Metro.

Almost half, if not more of the players in Operation Locker just camp 2 spots next to ammo crates. rolleyes.gif
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In real-life combat, launched grenades never carom off hard walls or not like tennis balls anyway, like they do in BF 4. rolleyes.gif Grenade launchers are used like 'mini-mortars' to drop ordinance over walls and at greater distance than they can be thrown. I should know, I earned my Expert badge with the M203 40 mm grenade launcher in the U.S. Army. It really is a stupid and OP game feature. Understand that I get that this is not a combat simulator like Arma but launchable grenades that can be bounced around corners is just absurd. They should just get rid of it completely.

I actually have hands on experience too, in the Greek Army wink.gif I have no idea how it behaves in a closed room ofc just in open field (only some special units get trained in urban warfare over here and I am willing to bet my head they don't use nade launchers inside buildings lol) but I would really expect it to bounce If it was fired against a wall 2 metres away from the user just like normal hand nades can bounce. The thing is nobody is so paranoid to even try that in real life. I am not arguing that the whole BF4 situation makes sense, it's just one of those screwy yet fun things, together with safely detonating C4 3m away or hipfiring on the go silenced LMGs biggrin.gif
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