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Actually no real benefit for being Premium other than purchasing all DLC at a bundled price. Honestly I think they should do something special like a Premium set of weapons or something. Ya we get knives and camo but woopty freaking do.

Well the fact that premium don't have to purchase it each time, get some sort of early access (despite it being broken 3/3 times) - I think the cheaper price also plays a factor.
So yeah no complaints for premium "content" there.
But in all honesty - it isn't anything new - as pointed out by Raider.
The maps are the new things - and they are vastly appreciated by me and others. But the performance problems are there (or worse) in the new maps, the level works the same way and the once-epic game-mode turned into crap due to DICE having people spawn on the carrier.

I can GURANTEE you as a BF2142 TITAN player, that if we weren't spawned on the enemy carrier, then a LOT more people would be fighting over the objectives.
In 2142:
15 players would attack, 10 would defend, and the 8 others would be on land taking objectives.

Now it's:
25 attack, 5 defend and only 2 on land
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because the cost of premium includes 2-weeks early access to DLC's.

yeah forgot about buying it individually bro! My bad!
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This is an interesting point, in my 1300hrs of bf3/4 I have taken several 1 week breaks then been itching to play. This time have had 3 weeks so far and have tried to have a few rounds since NS dropped but no go, the break this time has sent me the other way, its garbage, terrible for an fps. This may have been compounded by the fact I am now learning csgo for the first time ever and you make a valid point. I completely disagree about overlooking the netcode though as is the main mechanic of everything you do in the game and it is simply atrocious. Is more fun playing versus bots for me atm.
Of course,overlooking the netcode isn't the best solution,but do we have another? They won't fix it due to Microsoft traffic regulations (Xbox 360/Xbox One),that's obvious. Without increase in tickrate,it's impossible to make the netcode better.
You might as well don't pay attention to it and get used ,because it's not going to change any time soon. rolleyes.gif
And yes,going CS:GO to BF4 makes BF4 feel like a garbage.Competitive GO has 128 tickrate ,compare that to BF4. I need atleast an hour to get used to BF4 after playing CS, but in the great scheme of things, BF4 is a funnier and more entertaining title. CS:GO is awesome indeed, but it's too repetitive,always doing the same thing makes me stay away from it.
To each its own,but that's my 2cents.gif
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Of course,overlooking the netcode isn't the best solution,but do we have another? They won't fix it due to Microsoft traffic regulations (Xbox 360/Xbox One),that's obvious. Without increase in tickrate,it's impossible to make the netcode better.
You might as well don't pay attention to it and get used ,because it's not going to change any time soon. rolleyes.gif
And yes,going CS:GO to BF4 makes BF4 feel like a garbage.Competitive GO has 128 tickrate ,compare that to BF4. I need atleast an hour to get used to BF4 after playing CS, but in the great scheme of things, BF4 is a funnier and more entertaining title. CS:GO is awesome indeed, but it's too repetitive,always doing the same thing makes me stay away from it.
To each its own,but that's my 2cents.gif

If BF4 wasn't a console port and was developed on its own, I presume all the problems would not be present.
That's how it used to be in the past. Ever since BC1/2 - netcode issues etc went downhill.

Until EA don't split it up, they'll never, ever succeed in that case.
But they don't care really. We're a minority. The majority are the pick-up and play guys, that couldn't give a crap about their kills etc. They are also those that won't bother expressing their opinions or making videos on them. The people who do, people on thsi thread, people like me on YouTube are those minority type of players that get no attention or care from the developers.
yet we are the very ones that "built" BF its reputation.

in other words: TL;DR: DICE doesn't give a flying crap about veterans.
Their definition of a "veteran" is apparently someone who played the game just last year - not the guy that's been playing it for 7 years.
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Guys,instead of bashing the game all the time,do the same thing I did. rolleyes.gif
Take a month break or something simular in lenght and then start to play again. I don't have Premium nor China Rising, just base game, and I'm enjoying it like never before. 1 hour a day or less. Paid 40$ for the base game and I'm thinking of buying Premium for 30$ right now, seems worth it given the enjoyment of the game biggrin.gif Mantle is spot on, no rubber-banding or any sort of issues. The netcode, if you don't always watch how bad it is and don't discuss it,you'll get over it and won't even notice it.
Just don't go back to CS, because then the transition back to BF4 is quite frusturating. thumb.gif

Yeah I did this, but starting late January and continuing until early March. Of course, my machine was down for loop redesign and build but probably would done it anyway. Played other games for awhile before that. Though I sure didn't "go back to CS"; it may be one of the best shooters ever but that can't change the fact it's ancient.
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NS is great, in fact since its release and the patch, the game for me, is running better than ever, and I have not seen any rubber-banding.

Just a question to those with lag/rubber-banding -what is you network smoothing factor set to?
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If BF4 wasn't a console port and was developed on its own, I presume all the problems would not be present.
That's how it used to be in the past. Ever since BC1/2 - netcode issues etc went downhill.

Until EA don't split it up, they'll never, ever succeed in that case.
But they don't care really. We're a minority. The majority are the pick-up and play guys, that couldn't give a crap about their kills etc. They are also those that won't bother expressing their opinions or making videos on them. The people who do, people on thsi thread, people like me on YouTube are those minority type of players that get no attention or care from the developers.
yet we are the very ones that "built" BF its reputation.

in other words: TL;DR: DICE doesn't give a flying crap about veterans.
Their definition of a "veteran" is apparently someone who played the game just last year - not the guy that's been playing it for 7 years10 years.

Fixed that for you wink.gif

Although I can't help but feel this was the same opinion expressed many, many times during BC2's and BF3's development, by many different vets, and alot simply stopped playing
Edited by daguardian - 4/3/14 at 8:52am
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Originally Posted by daguardian View Post

NS is great, in fact since its release and the patch, the game for me, is running better than ever, and I have not seen any rubber-banding.

Just a question to those with lag/rubber-banding -what is you network smoothing factor set to?

I tried at 0, up to 20% network smoothing.
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Originally Posted by daguardian View Post

NS is great, in fact since its release and the patch, the game for me, is running better than ever, and I have not seen any rubber-banding.

Just a question to those with lag/rubber-banding -what is you network smoothing factor set to?
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Originally Posted by Totally Dubbed View Post

If BF4 wasn't a console port and was developed on its own, I presume all the problems would not be present.
That's how it used to be in the past. Ever since BC1/2 - netcode issues etc went downhill.

Until EA don't split it up, they'll never, ever succeed in that case.
But they don't care really. We're a minority. The majority are the pick-up and play guys, that couldn't give a crap about their kills etc. They are also those that won't bother expressing their opinions or making videos on them. The people who do, people on thsi thread, people like me on YouTube are those minority type of players that get no attention or care from the developers.
yet we are the very ones that "built" BF its reputation.

in other words: TL;DR: DICE doesn't give a flying crap about veterans.
Their definition of a "veteran" is apparently someone who played the game just last year - not the guy that's been playing it for 7 years10 years.

Fixed that for you wink.gif

Although I can't help but feel this was the same opinion expressed many, many times during BC2's and BF3's development, by many different vets, and alot simply stopped playing

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Originally Posted by daguardian View Post

NS is great, in fact since its release and the patch, the game for me, is running better than ever, and I have not seen any rubber-banding.

Just a question to those with lag/rubber-banding -what is you network smoothing factor set to?
Fixed that for you wink.gif

Although I can't help but feel this was the same opinion expressed many, many times during BC2's and BF3's development, by many different vets, and alot simply stopped playing
In terms of being distinguished:
well think back to BF3 - we still had the dogtags.
In BC2 we had the number of years as a vet.
In BF4 - we have a simple and boring dogtag, that shows nothing. And more so, a stupid veteran battlepack that required u to play BF3...wow, such talent, much disappoint.
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Of course,overlooking the netcode isn't the best solution,but do we have another? They won't fix it due to Microsoft traffic regulations (Xbox 360/Xbox One),that's obvious. Without increase in tickrate,it's impossible to make the netcode better.
You might as well don't pay attention to it and get used ,because it's not going to change any time soon. rolleyes.gif
And yes,going CS:GO to BF4 makes BF4 feel like a garbage.Competitive GO has 128 tickrate ,compare that to BF4. I need atleast an hour to get used to BF4 after playing CS, but in the great scheme of things, BF4 is a funnier and more entertaining title. CS:GO is awesome indeed, but it's too repetitive,always doing the same thing makes me stay away from it.
To each its own,but that's my 2cents.gif

I hear you and agree to each his own. In my experience I have completely gone off of the game play and do not find it in the least entertaining or fun. Repetitive feels refreshing, not once have I been frustrated even though having my ass handed to me on a regular basis for the reason on 10 out of 10 occasions my need to respawn is caused by being outplayed or making mistakes and never because of the game. Think I am just at that point where frustration with bf is superceding fun and at that point it is time to log off. I have had over 900hrs in bf3 though and over 400 in bf4 so not as if has come around quickly, and at some point I may return over the life of the game but right now give me that repetitive any day of the week.
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Guys,instead of bashing the game all the time,do the same thing I did. rolleyes.gif
Take a month break or something simular in lenght and then start to play again. I don't have Premium nor China Rising, just base game, and I'm enjoying it like never before. 1 hour a day or less. Paid 40$ for the base game and I'm thinking of buying Premium for 30$ right now, seems worth it given the enjoyment of the game biggrin.gif Mantle is spot on, no rubber-banding or any sort of issues. The netcode, if you don't always watch how bad it is and don't discuss it,you'll get over it and won't even notice it.
Just don't go back to CS, because then the transition back to BF4 is quite frusturating. thumb.gif

Love this post. So much win.
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