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Ahh yes, to be honest we're short on coders on our side and the only one in charge of the website is Trigun and my buddy Shazam who are currently busy with real life responsibilities so a lot of the work has been put on hold.

If you know any good HTML coders theyre definitely looking for someone to help with the website. Not sure how they pay or what incentive theyre offering.

Unlike CFA, we dont base rape. We do work together as a team and achieve insane scores and KDR's and we occasionally taunt our enemies but its all in good fun rolleyes.gifthumb.gif

Speaking of good games, heres two of my best solo switching games (meaning im the gunner and pilot at the same time) - won both rounds too




Yes they do. When i dont pub stomp and feed my ego, i get my ego stomped in 32v32 competitive LevelBF or i do 2v2 with ACE or i 8v8 with my team in competitive Conquest or Domination thumb.gif
Yeah you make a good point here. Usually we try to farm as much as we can within the first 500 tickets, sometimes we get as lucky as going 50-1 ... and then slowly we just creep up to 100 ... then 150+ ... but our deaths start to increase a bit faster since more and more people start to get annoyed and start bringing out the SRAW's, UCAV's, IGLA's, Javelins....

Man... if you guys only knew how frustrating dying to SRAW's that come from the total OPPOSITE direction 400m away... some of these guys are really good and dont get as much credit as we do.... but they pull off some crazy long range SRAW shots.

This one is for you Meow tongue.gif
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This one is for you Meow tongue.gif

sweet video dude!

i dont even get mad when i die to an sraw.... im just like "nice". :/

unless its an IGLA/stinger.... thats no skill at all mad.gif
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This one is for you Meow tongue.gif

Wow, you are a pro..


How do you calculate the "distance"?
 
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I just got rep for my montage from the 2701st page .... lol wow someone sure is back logged.
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Wow, you are a pro..


How do you calculate the "distance"?

I just watch honestly, the missile is faint but you can see it, I don't use the red reticule itself though for most long shots until the end/if at all, I lead the missile.

Honestly just a lot of practice.

I learned a lot from watching other videos of people doing it to understand the mechanic of leading a missiles.

There is another one with random moments of SRAW, same deal, just lead and be patient.

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sweet video dude!

i dont even get mad when i die to an sraw.... im just like "nice". :/

unless its an IGLA/stinger.... thats no skill at all mad.gif

That's good man thumb.gif some dudes get so mad. There used to be a time when you were banned on PT server from being too good, lol


Thanks by the way, it was fun 2 rounds.

I don't think I have got any rounds with so many continuous chopper kills. The rate was crazy. I was on the roll, so was half of my team. It was so hilarious, because it started with like 10 dudes with sraws on C, and if you notice everyone was rushing to hit the choppers first, where it made it difficult in tracing your own rocket with all of them in the air tongue.gif


I remember some dudes got banned or kicked from PT server for being too good with SRAW. Ego was better about that, but still a bit whiny when admins are flying the choppers lol
Edited by XLifted - 3/28/15 at 1:11am
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sweet video dude!

i dont even get mad when i die to an sraw.... im just like "nice". :/

unless its an IGLA/stinger.... thats no skill at all mad.gif

Kind of like how killing armor with a chopper is no skill at all on shanghai....or shooting infantry from a helo on shanghai is no skill at all. Those dudes shooting igla's and crap are dodging whatever is on the ground while they are trying to kill you ( and they cant shoot sparks out their butts to break the lock on...), you are dodging ermm about nothing.....fly around a building hide wait for your anti lock on crap to rejuice up, shoot stuff with practical impunity, rinse repeat. Occasionally you'll probably have to deal with some level 14 pilot and that is about it. So yeah those in brick houses probably shouldn't throw the I'm 1337 and you're not stones at igla/stinger peeps.

I only have 25 kills in 450 hours with those so I think they are no skill too, but still, they are on the ground gettin pounded from all sides so they are dealing with a tad more than just you. But heck I am old school, i think anything but the RPG is no skill. (tongue.gif) Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Edited by the9quad - 3/28/15 at 2:05pm
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and they cant shoot sparks out their butts to break the lock on...

lol. Nicely said though.

People take the term "skill" too seriously imo.
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That's good man thumb.gif some dudes get so mad. There used to be a time when you were banned on PT server from being too good, lol


Ego was better about that, but still a bit whiny when admins are flying the choppers lol

Yeah, im an admin for ego and they get pretty mad when i jump in the choppers and start going 150+ kills in a round and causing "people to leave". They have banned of the platoons i was previously in for "server clearing" which is apparently an offense that is committed when two or more players start to do really good on a team and cause unskilled players to leave rolleyes.gif

I was also banned from PT for quite a while because the admin was convinced i was some sort of hacker. Lol!!! Im unbanned now and in good terms with PT leadership now though.
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Kind of like how killing armor with a chopper is no skill at all on shanghai....or shooting infantry from a helo on shanghai is no skill at all. Those dudes shooting igla's and crap are dodging whatever is on the ground while they are trying to kill you ( and they cant shoot sparks out their butts to break the lock on...), you are dodging ermm about nothing.....fly around a building hide wait for your anti lock on crap to rejuice up, shoot stuff with practical impunity, rinse repeat. Occasionally you'll probably have to deal with some level 14 pilot and that is about it. So yeah those in brick houses probably shouldn't throw the I'm 1337 and you're not stones at igla/stinger peeps.

I only have 25 kills in 450 hours with those so I think they are no skill too, but still, they are on the ground gettin pounded from all sides so they are dealing with a tad more than just you. But heck I am old school, i think anything but the RPG is no skill. (tongue.gif) Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

You know 9quad thats a perfectly great assumption to think about just "popping countermeasures and just easily getting away"... but you dont have 500+ hours in the heli to realize some key problems in this assumption:

1. Countermeasures are 60% successful. Almost HALF the time (yes HALF i can make a montage of ECM or flare fails)
2. If the anti-air is shot within 100-120m range, the missile will ALMOST ALWAYS hit.
3. Assuming you fly the helicopter... you arent always in a flat oriented position. Sometimes you are diving down to avoid missiles, and when you pop countermeasures... they will hit you... land you in an uncontrollable engine offline... and MOST of the time you might die just from the engine offline....
4. theyre not brick houses, do you how fragile a helicopter is ? the health on those are equivalent to a MRAP or even LESS. I dont know where you got the brick houses assumption.
5. We arent just dodging lock ons.... you have to realize that there other things shooting at us like tanks, or other helicopters.
6. Were only given one countermeasure per 20 seconds - so we have to assume to only have ONE ESCAPE for ONE MISSILE... from ONE PERSON .... every 20 seconds.... There is usually 4-5 if not more around 10 people (squads on the roof) with stingers and IGLA ..... do you know how difficult it is ?
7. if were hit at any health for any given reason.... we are put into engine offline which spins the heli UNCONTROLLABLY and leaves it paralyzed in the air for 4-5 seconds.... PROBLEM HERE IS.... IGLA/stinger reloads FASTER than the time you recover from engine offline..... meaning pilots can get stuck in complete LOCK DOWNS that are unescapable. (wheres the skill there?)




It seems as simple as "rinse and repeat" but honestly id love to watch you jump in a helicopter and copy what we do because its "rinse and repeat".

Honestly im just here to recruit for my pub farming clan, Air Versus Air. If you are unhappy about people who are good in the helicopter then keep your opinion to yourself. Im not here to stir up people and tell them they dont have skill.... but seriously you cant just tell me that your weapon like an IGLA or stinger requires ANY skill compared to aiming SRAW or flying a helicopter....

Yeah you guys are dealing with other forces on the ground.... but do you know how easy an IGLA or stinger is to use? You just look at a target.... and click one button when it locks... and thats it.... how can you seriously compare that to flying a chopper and killing people... lmao

I love how people assume that the helicopter takes no skill when i see none of you guys pulling the same scores i am "assuming it takes no skill to perform how i do in game" rolleyes.gif
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lol. Nicely said though.

People take the term "skill" too seriously imo.

Of course.... obviously i am not a skillful player despite playing in multiple competitive esports leagues and pulling insane games.... because "flying a heli is easy and takes no skill and anyone can do it".... mhmmmm rolleyes.gif

people take "skill" term too seriously - (said by every non-skilled player) lachen.gif to be quite honest
Edited by Aesthethc - 3/28/15 at 7:22pm
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Most of the time, there is no other competent helo pilot on those shanghai only servers except for one side. Which is why pilots farm there...So there goes that threat.

Tanks can only shoot at a limited vertical angle, so there goes that threat. (kind of ironic when you say you have to deal with no skill lockons,.,,at least you have every degree of freedom at your disposal, the guy in the tank unless he has a gunner soflam, can't even shoot back at you 99% of the time because of the turret angle so where is the skill in that?) Oh and tank reactive armor doesnt work from above, so tanks don't even get that much help And 99% of the time when we do get you chopper fellas to come within an angle we can shoot you at, our hits don't outright kill ya.

Not trying to be a smart alec, but all good helo pilots know not to let armor get that angle, and you are a good pilot, so don't act like you are dealing with tanks....

Shanghai has no anti-air another reason helo pilots love that map, so there goes that threat.

You can hide behind buildings where if there is no other competent pilot to face, you are immune, switch seats with your gunner, etc.. so there goes the "I only have countermeasures every 20 seconds and am a sitting duck the rest of the time" threat... It's shanghai we all know why pilots love it.

So while you may be a great pilot, going 150-0 or whatever it is you do, you have many advantages that the "unskilled" igla/stinger or any other ground guy doesn't have, which is why you are in a helo going 150-0 and not on the ground doing it.

No one said you weren't skilled, it was you that stated that the igla/stinger "unskilled" people make you mad. I was stating that they aren't unskilled, they are getting it from just about every angle, and they are evening the odds, making you have to actually attempt to work for your kills. Not everyone sits on a roof with a SRAW all map playing hunt the chopper, there are other people on the server playing the objectives, and when you have a helo pilot dominating because they have no threats, well that means the chopper pilots side also has all the armor, the other side has none, and it also means anyone on the other side rarely can get anywhere without being spotted. So being on the ground, if a guy chooses to grab a stinger or IGLA so he can make you run away for 20 seconds, well he is playing smart.

So keep in mind while you have a 85 kdr on the map you are playing, even the very best guy on the ground is lucky to have a 4-6 kdr, so if you get stuck in a lock on (where there is no "skill" involved......cry me a river) remember you'd be fairing much worse on the ground dealing with the crap all those "unskilled" igla/stinger people have to deal with.

TLDR no one is debating your skill, just stating choppers have many more advantages then joe stinger/igla guy or any other thing on the ground.. and have to deal with less threats than they do, and can often times attack with little to no risk.


There is a reason ONE good chopper team can make a match lopsided pretty much by themselves.
Edited by the9quad - 3/28/15 at 9:32pm
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You're good at flying the helicopter, that's cool.

Nobody really cares all that much, you can stop bragging any time now. If I put all my free time into it I could be just as good...
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