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Most of the time, there is no other competent helo pilot on those shanghai only servers except for one side. Which is why pilots farm there...So there goes that threat.

Tanks can only shoot at a limited vertical angle, so there goes that threat. (kind of ironic when you say you have to deal with no skill lockons,.,,at least you have every degree of freedom at your disposal, the guy in the tank unless he has a gunner soflam, can't even shoot back at you 99% of the time because of the turret angle so where is the skill in that?) Oh and tank reactive armor doesnt work from above, so tanks don't even get that much help And 99% of the time when we do get you chopper fellas to come within an angle we can shoot you at, our hits don't outright kill ya.

Not trying to be a smart alec, but all good helo pilots know not to let armor get that angle, and you are a good pilot, so don't act like you are dealing with tanks....

Shanghai has no anti-air another reason helo pilots love that map, so there goes that threat.

You can hide behind buildings where if there is no other competent pilot to face, you are immune, switch seats with your gunner, etc.. so there goes the "I only have countermeasures every 20 seconds and am a sitting duck the rest of the time" threat... It's shanghai we all know why pilots love it.

So while you may be a great pilot, going 150-0 or whatever it is you do, you have many advantages that the "unskilled" igla/stinger or any other ground guy doesn't have, which is why you are in a helo going 150-0 and not on the ground doing it.

No one said you weren't skilled, it was you that stated that the igla/stinger "unskilled" people make you mad. I was stating that they aren't unskilled, they are getting it from just about every angle, and they are evening the odds, making you have to actually attempt to work for your kills. Not everyone sits on a roof with a SRAW all map playing hunt the chopper, there are other people on the server playing the objectives, and when you have a helo pilot dominating because they have no threats, well that means the chopper pilots side also has all the armor, the other side has none, and it also means anyone on the other side rarely can get anywhere without being spotted. So being on the ground, if a guy chooses to grab a stinger or IGLA so he can make you run away for 20 seconds, well he is playing smart.

So keep in mind while you have a 85 kdr on the map you are playing, even the very best guy on the ground is lucky to have a 4-6 kdr, so if you get stuck in a lock on (where there is no "skill" involved......cry me a river) remember you'd be fairing much worse on the ground dealing with the crap all those "unskilled" igla/stinger people have to deal with.

TLDR no one is debating your skill, just stating choppers have many more advantages then joe stinger/igla guy or any other thing on the ground.. and have to deal with less threats than they do, and can often times attack with little to no risk.


There is a reason ONE good chopper team can make a match lopsided pretty much by themselves.

Well said man. thumb.gif

I still stand by my statement that IGLA/stinger user have no skill but to each his own rolleyes.gif im talking about people specifically who do nothing but IGLA all day because there are people who do that lol
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1 kdr and proud. :heart:

   
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Most of the time, there is no other competent helo pilot on those shanghai only servers except for one side. Which is why pilots farm there...So there goes that threat.

Tanks can only shoot at a limited vertical angle, so there goes that threat. (kind of ironic when you say you have to deal with no skill lockons,.,,at least you have every degree of freedom at your disposal, the guy in the tank unless he has a gunner soflam, can't even shoot back at you 99% of the time because of the turret angle so where is the skill in that?) Oh and tank reactive armor doesnt work from above, so tanks don't even get that much help And 99% of the time when we do get you chopper fellas to come within an angle we can shoot you at, our hits don't outright kill ya.

Not trying to be a smart alec, but all good helo pilots know not to let armor get that angle, and you are a good pilot, so don't act like you are dealing with tanks....

Shanghai has no anti-air another reason helo pilots love that map, so there goes that threat.

You can hide behind buildings where if there is no other competent pilot to face, you are immune, switch seats with your gunner, etc.. so there goes the "I only have countermeasures every 20 seconds and am a sitting duck the rest of the time" threat... It's shanghai we all know why pilots love it.

So while you may be a great pilot, going 150-0 or whatever it is you do, you have many advantages that the "unskilled" igla/stinger or any other ground guy doesn't have, which is why you are in a helo going 150-0 and not on the ground doing it.

No one said you weren't skilled, it was you that stated that the igla/stinger "unskilled" people make you mad. I was stating that they aren't unskilled, they are getting it from just about every angle, and they are evening the odds, making you have to actually attempt to work for your kills. Not everyone sits on a roof with a SRAW all map playing hunt the chopper, there are other people on the server playing the objectives, and when you have a helo pilot dominating because they have no threats, well that means the chopper pilots side also has all the armor, the other side has none, and it also means anyone on the other side rarely can get anywhere without being spotted. So being on the ground, if a guy chooses to grab a stinger or IGLA so he can make you run away for 20 seconds, well he is playing smart.

So keep in mind while you have a 85 kdr on the map you are playing, even the very best guy on the ground is lucky to have a 4-6 kdr, so if you get stuck in a lock on (where there is no "skill" involved......cry me a river) remember you'd be fairing much worse on the ground dealing with the crap all those "unskilled" igla/stinger people have to deal with.

TLDR no one is debating your skill, just stating choppers have many more advantages then joe stinger/igla guy or any other thing on the ground.. and have to deal with less threats than they do, and can often times attack with little to no risk.


There is a reason ONE good chopper team can make a match lopsided pretty much by themselves.

Very well said. I'm pretty much sided on this boat. I can't go into a highly populated server without coming across a vehicle every 50 yards, or every corner I turn. I like to play on foot if I can, and avoiding tanks is already hard enough by itself. Avoiding the choppers, too? Worse. I'm a person that came from CS:S and even BC2. Tanks are ridiculously evasive in this game (too fast and unrealistic...but idk how tanks are IRL). I'm still lingering to that BC2 feel and is the reason I go back to it a lot.
 
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Very well said. I'm pretty much sided on this boat. I can't go into a highly populated server without coming across a vehicle every 50 yards, or every corner I turn. I like to play on foot if I can, and avoiding tanks is already hard enough by itself. Avoiding the choppers, too? Worse. I'm a person that came from CS:S and even BC2. Tanks are ridiculously evasive in this game (too fast and unrealistic...but idk how tanks are IRL). I'm still lingering to that BC2 feel and is the reason I go back to it a lot.

The bottom line is if you wanna play this game with teamwork/objective based, you really need a pre-made squad. You can deal with almost any threat. For example: two guys with IGLA's and an ammo pack can keep Mr. Helo Pro Boi at bay even in a map like Shanghai. Throw in a UCAV or two and you'll own him pretty much.
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Very well said. I'm pretty much sided on this boat. I can't go into a highly populated server without coming across a vehicle every 50 yards, or every corner I turn. I like to play on foot if I can, and avoiding tanks is already hard enough by itself. Avoiding the choppers, too? Worse. I'm a person that came from CS:S and even BC2. Tanks are ridiculously evasive in this game (too fast and unrealistic...but idk how tanks are IRL). I'm still lingering to that BC2 feel and is the reason I go back to it a lot.

The bottom line is if you wanna play this game with teamwork/objective based, you really need a pre-made squad. You can deal with almost any threat. For example: two guys with IGLA's and an ammo pack can keep Mr. Helo Pro Boi at bay even in a map like Shanghai. Throw in a UCAV or two and you'll own him pretty much.

Makes all the difference in this game. A single organized squad or even 2-3 players with good VOIP communication can wreak massive havoc, or potentially get their teams to win a lot more overall. Playing with a whole team of randoms is typically way less fun and more frustrating, even if the team wins you may still feel like you personally lost. If you were playing with a squad of pals over VOIP and legitimately lost then you probably still had fun and consider it a GG, you just happened to be bested by either another squad working more effectively together or a lucky bunch of good randoms who as a whole did well.
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The bottom line is if you wanna play this game with teamwork/objective based, you really need a pre-made squad. You can deal with almost any threat. For example: two guys with IGLA's and an ammo pack can keep Mr. Helo Pro Boi at bay even in a map like Shanghai. Throw in a UCAV or two and you'll own him pretty much.

Oh for sure. Bad Company 2 is even like this on certain game modes. It's just not a common occurrence that I can jump on a random server and just expect other random players to be reliable. Not saying I'm the most dependent or best teammate either, but it happens.
 
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The bottom line is if you wanna play this game with teamwork/objective based, you really need a pre-made squad. You can deal with almost any threat. For example: two guys with IGLA's and an ammo pack can keep Mr. Helo Pro Boi at bay even in a map like Shanghai. Throw in a UCAV or two and you'll own him pretty much.

Yep a squad of two or three is enough to put me back a significant amount. (being in the heli all the time) wink.gif

The best squad on eGO 24/7 Shanghai ive seen was a Javelin (Eng) + PLD (Recon) + Ammo (Support) and honestly javelins are the worst because even if i drop ECM or flares, the jav is going to hit regardless of where i am and it does close to 90% damage which almost leads to an engine offline + fire ---

The only way to escape a javelin hit and survive is to do an immediate mid-air bail/switch with the gunner and have the gunner pop his fire extinguishers.... im surprised no one uses the jav... that thing wrecks!

Also to mention, the PLD is glitched i think cause that still tracks my position/spots me even behind buildings. I just dont get it. Im behind buildings and im still being tracked and spotted...

There are so many advantageous gadgets that classes dont even use against me.

One time i even saw a squad that had like two of those M-APS gadgets and it kept deflecting my gunner shots and my rockets/tows.... it was completely OP for something like protecting the top floor elevator from heli strikes... and on top of that the stinger spam was so unreal that every time i made a pass the M-APS would just deflect everything and thus making our 10 second passes worthless...

There are tons of UCAV regulars in eGO 24/7 shanghai. I remember this one guy had 50% of our deaths purely just from UCAV strikes.... theyre so annoying because we have no idea if a UCAV is on our way while in a heli battle... 1 hit and im down :/

It honestly just takes two or three people to work together in squad chat to put me at bay, but ill be honest its pretty seldom i see that. I mostly see single instances of stingers/IGLA's but not as much groups (which would of been super detrimental if they DID work together)
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Is the eGO server hard core ?
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Is the eGO server hard core ?

Used to have a hardcore server up but i believe they took it down for the upcoming event in plans.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/servers/show/pc/a947bfc8-042e-484a-b84b-004dc3cb98d9/eGO-DICE-24-7-Siege-Of-Shanghai-Edge-Gamers-com-EA/

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/servers/show/pc/0279eb49-aef1-4c92-bc06-60863919bede/eGO-DICE-Conquest-Popular-Maps-Edge-Gamers-com-EA/

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/servers/show/pc/d011dff7-fccd-4ab3-a43c-266308e2e082/eGO-DICE-24-7-Operation-Locker-Edge-Gamers-com-EA/


Here are the three eGO servers that i admin for. We used to have a fourth server for hardcore but right now its

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/servers/show/pc/d178444f-8f36-4f28-be2b-aa7db5fc38e5/eGO-Event-Server/

The game mode is set to hardcore 60% health i believe... but we have renamed the server from 24/7 hardcore to event server for now thumb.gif
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