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It seems ridiculous to me how people can call 50fps unplayable. You can't even see any difference beyond 70 frames per second, 50 to me is fine although you can see the difference from 60/70. I guess it's just what you get used to, some people who've been used to playing on a crap PC for ages consider 20fps playable.
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It seems ridiculous to me how people can call 50fps unplayable. You can't even see any difference beyond 70 frames per second, 50 to me is fine although you can see the difference from 60/70. I guess it's just what you get used to, some people who've been used to playing on a crap PC for ages consider 20fps playable.

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This "Can't see more than X FPS" myth needs to die already. I can most definitely see a difference in say. 70 vs 90, or 90 vs 120FPS. Get a 120Hz monitor or play on one and you'll take that back. There is a huge difference in motion clarity, so even if "the human eye can't see more than X frames" there's still a large difference in motion clarity.
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It seems ridiculous to me how people can call 50fps unplayable. You can't even see any difference beyond 70 frames per second, 50 to me is fine although you can see the difference from 60/70. I guess it's just what you get used to, some people who've been used to playing on a crap PC for ages consider 20fps playable.

You must be either blind or your mind cannot process the higher frame output, at 75hz, all games take a massive leap forward in fluidity and input speed, this is just 15FPS higher than 60...... let alone 120hz/144hz.

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I've had an 85HZ monitor, I noticed no difference in smoothness past 70fps, so from my own experience I couldn't see any difference.
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I've had an 85HZ monitor, I noticed no difference in smoothness past 70fps, so from my own experience I couldn't see any difference.

You either lie or do not use the screen in your sig? or you overclocked it? if so 85hz is a nice OC.

You are more than likely just one of those who cannot visually process the higher output, in this case it might be a good thing, or your GPU is actually running well below that refresh rate negating any perceivable difference.
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Yea, same. I´m running mine @72Hz, and in BF3 I instantly notice the difference in fluidity when frames drop below ~65, after getting used to 70+ fps, 50fps feels just slow and unplayable no matter how you slice it. And yea, its only 12Hz/fps higher than standard 60Hz smile.gif

Its what human eye gets used to, if I play a console-game that is running @30fps, it starts feeling tolerable after some time.
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You either lie or do not use the screen in your sig? or you overclocked it? if so 85hz is a nice OC.

You are more than likely just one of those who cannot visually process the higher output, in this case it might be a good thing, or your GPU is actually running well below that refresh rate negating any perceivable difference.

Do you know what "had" means?

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/had
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had (hd)
v.
Past tense and past participle of have.
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Do you know what "had" means?

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/had

Reading comprehension fail my bad....

Still, your theory is wrong in every aspect if the person has the ability to process the higher frame count, not everyone can.
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I've had an 85HZ monitor, I noticed no difference in smoothness past 70fps, so from my own experience I couldn't see any difference.

You sure it was really 85 Hz? Use testufo to test refresh rates.
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Reading comprehension fail my bad....

Still, your theory is wrong in every aspect if the person has the ability to process the higher frame count, not everyone can.

Ok, well i couldn't. I was playing games at frames reaching over 100 fps on an 85hz monitor and beyond 70 fps I couldn't tell any difference in how smooth the game was running. Maybe that is good to know so I don't ever think about wasting money trying to get minimum 120 fps if it wouldn't make any difference to me.
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You sure it was really 85 Hz? Use testufo to test refresh rates.

Yes positive, and I don't have the monitor anymore anyways.
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