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It seems ridiculous to me how people can call 50fps unplayable. You can't even see any difference beyond 70 frames per second, 50 to me is fine although you can see the difference from 60/70. I guess it's just what you get used to, some people who've been used to playing on a crap PC for ages consider 20fps playable.

Maybe YOU can't even see any difference beyond 70...I can. I am a human Fraps. My "acceptable" level of framerate for an online shooter is 120 MINIMUM, 160 avg on a 120hz monitor.

But let me give you some more examples of how MY EYES function. I had a LAN party recently and 1 fella brought in an LED monitor w/ obvious PWM dimming. I remember looking over and could instantly tell that something was VERY, VERY wrong w/ his monitor. I couldn't look @ it for more than a few seconds wo/ feeling INSTANT eye pain. But guess what...he games for HOURS on it. I was the ONLY one out of 10 of us that could see the flickering. It didn't bother anyone else. Best I can tell, this has something to do w/ the rods in my eye...maybe they're too big, who knows.

Awhile back I had been mountain biking w/ my bro. We were in a particularly fast section and I came to a full stop because I SAW A TINY SPIDER ON A WEB DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF ME. My bro rode right past, yet I saw it plain as day.

Fluorescent lights give me migraines and I'm blind as a bat wo/ my glasses or contacts, but my eyes pick up on EVERYTHING. So there's some good and some bad in my genetics. Thankfully, it looks like BenQ has FINALLY made a monitor for those like me in the XL2420TE.

Just remember we're all different dude.

That said, I'm fine w/ 45 avg in a single player like Tomb Raider...but a competitive shooter like Battlfield...online? Yeah, I want all the frames I can have buddy.
Edited by Jodiuh - 10/6/13 at 5:16am
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Maybe YOU can't even see any difference beyond 70...I can. I am a human Fraps. My "acceptable" level of framerate for an online shooter is 120 MINIMUM, 160 avg on a 120hz monitor.

But let me give you some more examples of how MY EYES function. I had a LAN party recently and 1 fella brought in an LED monitor w/ obvious PWM dimming. I remember looking over and could instantly tell that something was VERY, VERY wrong w/ his monitor. I couldn't look @ it for more than a few seconds wo/ feeling INSTANT eye pain. But guess what...he games for HOURS on it. I was the ONLY one out of 10 of us that could see the flickering. It didn't bother anyone else.

Awhile back I had been mountain biking w/ my bro. We were in a particularly fast section and I came to a full stop because I SAW A TINY SPIDER ON A WEB DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF ME. My bro rode right past, yet I saw it plain as day.

Fluorescent lights give me migraines and I'm blind as a bat wo/ my glasses or contacts, but my eyes pick up on EVERYTHING. So there's some good and some bad in my genetics. Thankfully, it looks like BenQ has FINALLY made a monitor for those like me in the XL2420TE.

Just remember we're all different dude.

That said, I'm fine w/ 45 avg in a single player like Tomb Raider...but a competitive shooter like Battlfield...online? Yeah, I want all the frames I can have buddy.

lol

seems your sensitive eyes are going to cost you a lot of money, whereas my crappy ones will let me be satisfied with 60 fps tongue.gif
Edited by smaudioz - 10/6/13 at 5:16am
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That said, I'm fine w/ 45 avg in a single player like Tomb Raider...but a competitive shooter like Battlfield...online? Yeah, I want all the frames I can have buddy.


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lol

seems your sensitive eyes are going to cost you a lot of money, whereas my crappy ones will let me be satisfied with 60 fps tongue.gif

You're not going to be laughing when I take you out w/ my AWESOME eyes in Battle...oh, who am I kidding. I'm terrible @ this game. I bet you don't wear glasses either...punk. biggrin.gif

But in all seriousness. Try if at all possible, LAN/Friend/Amazon, to hunt down a good 144hz panel like the Asus or BenQ and play some Battlefield w/ no less than 120 frames as a bare minimum. You say you don't see it, so I would suggest comparing your k/d ratio and overall enjoyment of the game. I would bet $5 whole dollar bucks and 1 steam game that you would find it easier to track and target enemies.

Also, I've said it before, but I will take low detail and 120 FPS over ultra detail and 60 FPS all day long. To me, the joy in an online shooter is dominating everyone and everything. If I'm not crushing you, I'm not having fun. Yes, I'm that shallow when it comes to MP games.

Tomb Raider...45 frames, controller, lazy-boy, dieing all day long and taking forever to get through the game cause I can't stop looking @ Lara's hair w/ TressFX on...yeah, no worries there. In fact, for games like that I'd even prefer a 27" 1440 PLS like that nice Asus. That's what makes my decision to jump on the BenQ so difficult. It's going to kill the Nvidia surround I have going on 3 (small and old, but still pretty) IPS displays.

I'm gonna kill everyone if Dell releases a nice 1920x1200 IPS @ 144hz w/ 1ms G2G response time though...
Edited by Jodiuh - 10/6/13 at 5:28am
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You're not going to be laughing when I take you out w/ my AWESOME eyes in Battle...oh, who am I kidding. I'm terrible @ this game. I bet you don't wear glasses either...punk. biggrin.gif

But in all seriousness. Try if at all possible, LAN/Friend/Amazon, to hunt down a good 144hz panel like the Asus or BenQ and play some Battlefield w/ no less than 120 frames as a bare minimum. You say you don't see it, so I would suggest comparing your k/d ratio and overall enjoyment of the game. I would bet $5 whole dollar bucks and 1 steam game that you would find it easier to track and target enemies.

^ This I got my 144Hz even tho I couldnt get to the 120fps, 90 in BF3 on a 144Hz over a 60Hz was so much better accuracy went from 19% to 21% in just over a month and I was doing 60/10 instead of 20/10 thumb.gif and my eyes are crap tongue.gif

Edit I was coming from the Dells in my sig to the Asus to so the difference was massive for me just on response time alone
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To me, those commands have no impact. Not even in Battlefield 3.

interesting, what are your specs? those commands helped me and my friends allot.
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These panels are no joke guys. True, I'm coming from what may possibly be the slowest and crappiest monitor for an online shooter and YMMV. But this is VERY much like the difference between a mechanical hard drive and an SSD. Once you experience it...really give it a shot, there is no going back.

It's 100% the reason I quit playing BF3. My k/d ratio more than doubled in the time I tested those 4 120hz monitors back in early 2012. If it weren't for their damned PWM controlled backlights, I would have kept any one of them.

And now it looks like the BenQ has been lowered by $85 bucks so I'm more tempted than ever!
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You're not going to be laughing when I take you out w/ my AWESOME eyes in Battle...oh, who am I kidding. I'm terrible @ this game. I bet you don't wear glasses either...punk. biggrin.gif

But in all seriousness. Try if at all possible, LAN/Friend/Amazon, to hunt down a good 144hz panel like the Asus or BenQ and play some Battlefield w/ no less than 120 frames as a bare minimum. You say you don't see it, so I would suggest comparing your k/d ratio and overall enjoyment of the game. I would bet $5 whole dollar bucks and 1 steam game that you would find it easier to track and target enemies.

Also, I've said it before, but I will take low detail and 120 FPS over ultra detail and 60 FPS all day long. To me, the joy in an online shooter is dominating everyone and everything. If I'm not crushing you, I'm not having fun. Yes, I'm that shallow when it comes to MP games.

Tomb Raider...45 frames, controller, lazy-boy, dieing all day long and taking forever to get through the game cause I can't stop looking @ Lara's hair w/ TressFX on...yeah, no worries there. In fact, for games like that I'd even prefer a 27" 1440 PLS like that nice Asus. That's what makes my decision to jump on the BenQ so difficult. It's going to kill the Nvidia surround I have going on 3 (small and old, but still pretty) IPS displays.

I'm gonna kill everyone if Dell releases a nice 1920x1200 IPS @ 144hz w/ 1ms G2G response time though...
So I take it most of the people playing at 120Hz and looking for 120 fps minimum are running at very low settings to achieve that? I'd rather it look nice and run slower personally, I'm not really competitive so I don't need all the ultra high frames at the expense of eye candy. Also I am in no kind of financial situation to afford that kind of setup even if I wanted it..
Edited by smaudioz - 10/6/13 at 5:43am
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I made a little tutorial on sniping long distances

Didn't know that..I'm going the give the sniping one more chance. And I just Subbed to your channel, +Rep thumb.gif
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Is there anyway to fix the horrible stutter in BF4 Beta. The cpu usage goes through the roof at is constantly in the 90's at all time while the gpu goes to 100% only to fall into the late 20's in the next second. This continues and the stutter makes it unplayable. I saw that some said to lower the priority, to use task manager and set the priority to low for BF4 Beta. After I did that my gpu usage never exceeds 60% usage and my cpu is till in the 90% usage line. Any idea how to get rid of this stutter without restraining my gpu usage to a max of 60% usage?
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