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Hello everyone,

I did a bit of research a couple months ago into building my own computer. I started a thread and talked with some people who gave me advice on what to get. At some point I moved on to other things, because I didn't have the money at the time and I felt that I had gotten a reasonable approximation of what I wanted.

Well, I'm back.

Here is a link to my old thread:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1333464/help-with-my-first-attempt-at-building-a-computer

Here is the rig I left off with:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme9 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($269.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($229.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($392.98 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($107.30 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS248H-P 24.0" Monitor ($180.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: Asus VS248H-P 24.0" Monitor ($180.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1880.18
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-26 18:11 EDT-0400)




My wife recently sold her laptop, and our financial situation is looking better and better, so she has told me to start looking again.

I spent some more time today looking around and reading up on stuff, and this is the new rig that I decided upon:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP5 TH ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($243.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($109.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($229.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($107.30 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($104.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VS248H-P 24.0" Monitor ($180.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $1820.18
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-03-26 18:14 EDT-0400)



I would appreciate any advice that might help me build a better rig. I mainly want to be able to play high end video games. I have an interest in overclocking, and I want a computer that is capable of overclocking well so that I can at least try it out.

Things I changed include:
Motherboard:
I heard more good things about the Gigabyte Mobo than the ASrock. It is also a little cheaper. I would prefer my Mobo to have Wifi, and I believe that the Gigabyte one does. Please correct me if I am wrong.
CPU Cooler:
I have no idea how to do cooling systems. I figure that this is more dependent on how the other pieces fit in the case so I haven't spent a lot of time on figuring this out. I read some stuff about water coolers breaking and I realized I probably don't want to hassle with that on my first computer. I assume that there are some stock fans that come with the case, but I heard many good things about Noctua fans. I would especially appreciate any advice concerning cooling, though I expect I will have to prowl the cooling forum before I make a well informed decision.
Memory:
The memory I had before has sold out. I kind of liked the old memory that I had picked out, but I am not very good at distinguishing good memory from bad. So, I kinda just picked this one. Not very attached to it, if someone has a good suggestion I will go with that. I want 16GB so I never have to worry about it. DRAM is going up, so maybe I should pounce on some memory soon...
Video Card:
This got a slight bump to the GHZ edition. Some Tom's Hardware stuff I was reading seemed to indicate that there was a meaningful difference between the two versions. I initially was a nVidia fan, but the 7970 is just so cheap comparatively. I figure if I ever need to upgrade I can just get another one and Crossfire them. Eh, if anyone wants to try and convince me to change this I welcome the effort. Also, chime in if I should just get the regular 7970.
Monitor:
Same monitor, just only getting one for now. I think this will tide me over until I want to get something really special. If I am going to splurge on monitors, I want to go all the way, and right now I don't have the money to do that. I have about $1,500 to spend, but I think my wife could live with $2,000 or a little above as a budget.


I think that's about it. Once again, I appreciate any advice.

TLDR;

I'm deciding on what parts to buy for my computer again!
Old Rig Parts
New Rig Parts
Motivations for Choices
post #2 of 10
This is a very good rig, but here are my suggestions:
-look around for the samsung ram, it goes back in stock every so often
-Unless you really want the extra power, a 3570k is just fine for gaming, even with crossfire.
-The NH-D14 is a very good choice, although an h100i will perform just as well. I would choose the one that you think looks best and has the best price.

Good luck!
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Thank you for the reply Legonut.

Do you consider the Samsung ram better, then?
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Thank you for the reply Legonut.

Do you consider the Samsung ram better, then?

Most ppl like the samsung ram because of its low profile and low voltages...if you plan on doing some overclocking, dont waste money on the ghz edition of the 7970. Look around some more you can get them cheaper. Good Luck.
 
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The ghz edition versus the non ghz edition is my biggest worry. On the Tom's Hardware review of the Ghz edition they seemed to indicate that there was something else about the ghz edition that made it faster that couldn't be replicated by overclocking the non-ghz edition. I don't fully understand what they were talking about, however, so I don't know if that is actually what they were trying to say.

So, what I'm hearing is that by overclocking the non-ghz edition, I can get performance that is essentially as good as the ghz edition, or at least is not worth the extra bit of money the ghz edition costs?

Also, I have heard that it is much easier to crossfire two GPU's of different types and get boosted performance than to SLI two nVidia GPUs of different types and get a boosted performance. Later down the road in a couple years, how possible would it be for me to buy the next high end Radeon graphics card and just crossfire that with the 7970 to get stellar performance?
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The ghz edition versus the non ghz edition is my biggest worry. On the Tom's Hardware review of the Ghz edition they seemed to indicate that there was something else about the ghz edition that made it faster that couldn't be replicated by overclocking the non-ghz edition. I don't fully understand what they were talking about, however, so I don't know if that is actually what they were trying to say.

So, what I'm hearing is that by overclocking the non-ghz edition, I can get performance that is essentially as good as the ghz edition, or at least is not worth the extra bit of money the ghz edition costs?

Also, I have heard that it is much easier to crossfire two GPU's of different types and get boosted performance than to SLI two nVidia GPUs of different types and get a boosted performance. Later down the road in a couple years, how possible would it be for me to buy the next high end Radeon graphics card and just crossfire that with the 7970 to get stellar performance?

You have to take into consideration that when overclocking its a silicon lottery....It comes down to what I want my gpu's to do and how much. With the ghz edition, they come clocked at/or over 1ghz. Now you question, How much more can these ghz do. Same thing goes with the non-ghz edition. Me personally, I much rather gamble on non-ghz edition and go from there. I would suggest if you haven't already go to the 7950/7970 forum and see what ppl are doing with their cards and what kind of benchmarks they're getting. Just remember that not all cards will do the same performance just because its the same make and model. Good Luck.
 
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Thanks, I will likely go to the specific forum for each type of component and look into it deeper when I have more time, possibly this weekend.
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Thanks, I will likely go to the specific forum for each type of component and look into it deeper when I have more time, possibly this weekend.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202008

My suggestion if you wanted to get 7970. This sapphire comes with Bioshock and Crysis 3, plus 20.00 rebate.
 
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Have neither of those games and want them. Looks spicy.
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Have neither of those games and want them. Looks spicy.

Also, if you noticed the sapphire is clocked at 950mhz already w/ boost to 1ghz.
 
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