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CPU: AMD FX-4100 Zambezi 3.6GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor FD4100WMGUSBX
MOBO:ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD
Bios: 1.60
Heatsink: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 "Heatpipe Direct Contact" Long Life Sleeve 120mm CPU Cooler
Ram:G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
Video: SAPPHIRE 100355-1GOCL Radeon HD 7850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Suppor
Case: Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
PSU: Antec VP-450 450W ATX 12V v2.3 Power Supply


I have been reading around that you can overclock this on the stock heatsink/fan to 4.6ghz stable. However if, when I over clock to anything above 4.1 ghz I see a lot of performance loss, blue screens and freezes. I have tried installing the latest bios version but when I try to flash to it the UEFI stutter a lot and I lose the ability to use my mouse. I monitor my temps with speedfan and don't ever see a dramatic increase in temperature. What am I doing wrong... I just wan't some performance increase so I can feel my money was well spent lol. I originally just did the automatic overclock that the mobo comes with stock but I noticed it wasn't really overclocking at all. So then I tried manually overclocking with the mobo's settings and had no performance gain, so I then I set all the settings back to default and then tried the AMD Catalyst CPU overdrive software to automatically overclock for me it made it up to 4.7ghz then froze I restarted the computer and it gave me the range from 3.6ghz to 4.6ghz to choose from. I moved over to the 4.6ghz it was semi stable but the performance was garbage... I loaded up l4d2 and was having horrendous lag spikes that had to be processor lag it definitely wasn't video lag. So I disabled the AMD catalyst CPU Overdrive and tried to use the software that came with my system Asrock Extreme Tuner I found settings that people used that had the same mobo and cpu combination as me and used the same settings windows didn't feel as laggy but still gave me blue screens. Just wondering what I am doing wrong? I'm using setting that people say are very easy to achieve and I'm having not success.

Settings I read to try...
Clock:
CPU Frequency: 201MHz
PCIE Frequency: 100 MHz
CPU Ratio: x22.5
HT Ratio: x10
Voltage:
CPU Voltage: 1.4000 V
CPU NB Voltage: 1.2500 V
DRAM Voltage: 1.500 V
NB Voltage: 1.145 V
HT Voltage: 1.210 V


getting fatal errors with prime95 instantly as well.
post #2 of 40
What are your core temps?

Edit: Didn't notice you had a 212 at first. Do you have all the turbo boost and other throttle settings turned off in the bios?
Edited by imaurer269 - 3/26/13 at 11:07pm
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Hrm, no I dont. Let me see what I need to disable.
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So I need to disable, AMD Turbo Core Technology, and CPU Thermal Throttle? or are the settings called something else? and should i disable cool and quiet?
post #5 of 40
disable c states (C6 OR CE1 etc), cool and quiet, amd turbo core. on that motherboard you should be able to hit stable 4.7+ easy enough. I can get stable at 4.8+ and my motherboard is crap!

wouldn't do it with stock cooler tho
Edited by d1nky - 3/27/13 at 5:00am
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Alright disabled all those things, computer is much more stable going on an hour of testing with Hot CPU tester, I'm only at 4.3ghz or so but I think ill slowly take it up to 4.6/4.7. Not using stock cooling I am using a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus temps after an hour of running hot cpu tester according to Speed Fan are:

System: 25c
CPU: 39c
AUX: 7 c
smovt4: 25c
smovt5: 25c
smovt6: 25c
HD0: 29c
GPU: 27c
post #7 of 40
download prime95 for stability testing. other good monitoring tools hwinfo64 and cpuz

and read and read and read about overclocking.

things you need to know: overclock basics (multiplier x bus etc) LLC loadline calibration, voltages/frequencies. you need to know the thermal limits of your components, voltages they require etc.

and may be an idea to gently increase NB voltage. or try auto.
post #8 of 40
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True, I have read a bit, probably not as much as i should of... but I'm at 4.5ghz when i went to 4.6 windows wouldn't start up lol... Also, Prime95 keeps giving a fatal error as soon as I start it...
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4.5ghz and prime freezes instantly with illegal sumout...
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Prime is finally running, 20 seconds in one worker stopped says hardware failure detected... so far cpu is hovering around 42 to 43C Does this mean one of my cores is faulty? or what?
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