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You aren't supposed to, but in the end he is right. Price dictates competition. If you have a 50000$ bmw touring sedan vs a Dodge Challenger Hemi 6.1 and are focused on speed, you'd be stupid to choose the BMW. Sure it's not meant to be super fast, but when you are trying to win a race ( aka having the best fps) it boils down to price/performance. And in that regard, the Titan simply cannot compete. And just to further this fact, it said the fastest video card on the planet. Whether you realize it or not, dual chip and single chip cards are both video cards regardless of the amount of die's on them.

I guess it's all a matter of usage priorities, which is perfectly legitimate to differ on. I'd prefer a single-GPU card over a somewhat-faster dual-GPU card, but that's just me.

And yes, I do realize that the "single video card" category is by definition unlimited by the number of GPUs contained on the same PCB.
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You aren't supposed to, but in the end he is right. Price dictates competition. If you have a 50000$ bmw touring sedan vs a Dodge Challenger Hemi 6.1 and are focused on speed, you'd be stupid to choose the BMW. Sure it's not meant to be super fast, but when you are trying to win a race ( aka having the best fps) it boils down to price/performance. And in that regard, the Titan simply cannot compete. And just to further this fact, it said the fastest video card on the planet. Whether you realize it or not, dual chip and single chip cards are both video cards regardless of the amount of die's on them.

And Titans aren't NV's fastest cards. The 690 is.

There's a reason they priced the Titan to match the 690, the cards sell for different reasons. One sells for that extra 15% in performance while the other sells for multi GPU setups, VRAM, single GPU lovers, compute features etc.

The direct competition for the 7990 is the 690 and the previous 7990s. All similar dual GPU cards with about the same features. Titan is a different kind of card selling for different reasons. Sure if you don't care about the 7990 being a dual card and having less features you can get it since it will be faster than the Titan but why were you considering a titan in the first place if that's the case? The 690 should have been the one to consider.
 
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Not necessarily. For example, you can't compare a $50,000 sports car with a $50,000 touring sedan. Sure they're both identically-priced automobiles, but they're meant for different things.

In the same way, you really can't compare single-GPU (i.e. "touring sedan") and dual-GPU (i.e. "sports car") cards as they have differing operational characteristics and end-user experiences/expectations.

Yes you can... You compare what you get for your money...

Its simple.
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Yes you can... You compare what you get for your money...

Its simple.

Not everything you get for your money can be summed up by a single number generated by FRAPS.
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This is some sick joke right?

It's 10 months too late...think of how many hardcore enthusiast with 690 would've forked over $1K to AMD if they had this last May?
     
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Oh AMD, you so funny

You release a card the best part of 12 months late, with your new generation only a matter of months away and you honestly think that is impressive?

Even if it is the fastest video card in the world, who cares. By the end of the year it will be surpassed by something else and beaten by a good 20% when the next gen AMD and NV GPU's drop only a few months after the 7990.

Too little too late AMD. Better luck next time
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This is some sick joke right?

It's 10 months too late...think of how many hardcore enthusiast with 690 would've forked over $1K to AMD if they had this last May?

i would, only if i had the money though. No everyone is an Nvidia fanboy here. also, people with dual 7970's might want a single card to replace them and don't want to switch to nvidia.
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The real value of this reference 7990 is most likely going to be that it's going to be a cheap dual GPU solution that 7970 owners can throw in for a trifire system. If you're looking for lots of GPU power, that's where I see a sweet spot. Easier to manage space wise too since instead of three cards the setup would be two.
 
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More excited about the 8000 series.
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Lets see how this will pair up with the rumored fixes with crossfire latency in june.
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