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The song works rather well imo

Not to humans born with ears tongue.gif
 
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The video single player story-line was epic Michael Bay full on retard, it is a good thing I only play multi-player. I definitely am digging the destruction of the game world and the graphics overall though. Pre-ordered! thumb.gif

Lol agreed on the Michael bay comment. I definitely won't be buying this game for a year at least, and if I see more DLCs I'm just not going to buy BF4 period. I'll wait till the next iteration.
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Lol agreed on the Michael bay comment. I definitely won't be buying this game for a year at least, and if I see more DLCs I'm just not going to buy BF4 period. I'll wait till the next iteration.

Yayaya ill see you online on opening day just like all the other naysayers smile.gif
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Sadly I think future Battlefield releases including 4, are becoming like the Call of Duty releases. I know it cliche to use Call of Duty as a bad thing, but hear me out.

Every year a new Call of Duty comes out, all the fans get all hyped, saying its going to be the same as the previous, say they won't buy it, then they DO buy it and complain how its the same and buy all the DLC and act as if they were forced too.

It feels like BF4 is headed in the same direction, it clearly isn't that different of an engine then BF3 uses, they recycled so much stuff from character models, buildings and they didn't even change the knife animations.

Too be honest though, there is still lots of time for them to change stuff, I just hope they take note of the complaints from BF3 and can make BF4 an even better game. thumb.gif

/rant
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Yayaya ill see you online on opening day just like all the other naysayers smile.gif

Hahahahahah EXACTLY tongue.gif
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Looks good, not amazing or like when the BF3 trailer first arrived, but still looks pretty nice. The single player does look very COD like. I hope thats not how the multiplayer will end up looking.

Idk why all the hatred for suppression.

They definantly need to overhaul it (ie. change how it works: increasingly unsteady while ads maybe?). However, it adds an aspect to the game that you really don't find in many other shooters.
 
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Sadly I think future Battlefield releases including 4, are becoming like the Call of Duty releases. I know it cliche to use Call of Duty as a bad thing, but hear me out.

Every year a new Call of Duty comes out, all the fans get all hyped, saying its going to be the same as the previous, say they won't buy it, then they DO buy it and complain how its the same and buy all the DLC and act as if they were forced too.

It feels like BF4 is headed in the same direction, it clearly isn't that different of an engine then BF3 uses, they recycled so much stuff from character models, buildings and they didn't even change the knife animations.

Too be honest though, there is still lots of time for them to change stuff, I just hope they take note of the complaints from BF3 and can make BF4 an even better game. thumb.gif

/rant

I like this and would add that if rehashes were sold at a reasonable content to price ratio the complaints and hate would be dampened. It's going to come to a head and the massive cloud of derp will start to dissipate, maybe not today or tomorrow but very slowly and publishers will be forced to innovate or drop their prices to compensate. My guess is that prices drop before innovation happens.
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Considering we all know who Rhianna is, the song worked to appeal to masses of people. Maybe not people with good taste, but hey, it's national TV.
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Looks okay, not much different than BF3. I'll wait atleast a few weeks before buying to see what EA has up its sleeve to screw us over.
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I can see what you're saying there. BF3 certainly TRIES to be different than BC2... but I'll have to argue against it actually being it's own beast, so to speak.

In my opinion, BC2 (and BC1, but that doesn't count in this forum since it wasn't on PC) was a wild departure from all the previous BF games. It was an arcadey console game version of BF, it was meant to be, and it never pretended not to be. It wasn't really the "BF" game I (and presumably other BF fans) wanted, but that was ok because everyone knew that going into it and it was still enjoyable in it's own way.

BF3 dresses up serious and plays grown up, but it's really just BC2 with a bunch of stuff tacked on to pretend to be a BF "proper" game. For this reason I still see it more as closer to BC2 than BF2. It has the same engine, same problems, same design decisions and art direction, etc. BF3 might have a couple classic BF2 maps, but that just feels like an afterthought, much like the game itself seems like an afterthought to BC2.

I think BF3 and BC2 are definitely both very arcadey, but the difference being that BC2 actually does the fast-paced infantry combat well, while BF3 is not as good in that regard. BF3 tried to be too many things at once, attempting to satisfy BF2 vets, BC2 fans, and CoD kids at the same time.

BF3 being based on BC2 just doesn't jive too well with me since it doesn't make sense that a game based upon another game would end up with less... In BF3 there's less destructability, no reload cancelling (weapon switching to cancel reload animation early, idk if I had used the right term for it lol), no jumping through windows, etc. There's also changes like higher damage per bullet on almost everything, harder to control recoil, buffed vehicles, a bunch of recon nerfs, and more that discouraged the arcade-y destruction-filled infantry combat that makes BC2 so fun.

I think the part of BC2 that BF3 was based off of was not so much the gameplay, but rather EA/DICE's goal for the game. While people complain about CoD a lot (and for good reason) it's really because of what's happened to the game (or lack of lol) and the culture around it. We all loved CoD 4 when that came out, showing the gameplay (which has stayed very consistent throughout the series) is solid at its core (though very worn out and tired at this point).

EA/DICE want BF to bring over CoD players, which was the goal with BC2 as well, except BF3 is also trying to get BF2 and BC2 players, which I think just stretches it out too much. The goal to get CoD players is very similar for both BC2 and BF3; however, that goal detracts from BF3's gameplay while it doesn't do much to change BC2's gameplay since it's already arcadey and spastic.
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