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As a life long fan of BF since the good ol' 1942/DC days... I find "softcore" Canals TDM huge fun biggrin.gif

I do too every once in a while. That and I love gun master. tongue.gif I really enjoy the amount of variety BF3 has. There's something for any of my FPS moods.
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not a fan of the hard core...they removed the crosshairs and if I have a gun in my hands I don't need to be looking down the sights to know about where my rounds will go. Plus they upped the bullet damage...or lowered health. It seems like a paper cut will kill you. So it is hard to take out anyone with a weapon with a high rate of fire...which if you are new to the game you haven't unlocked much yet. Granted I think normal takes too much damage to kill some one, but hardcore took it too far.

Heh, though I think those maps are the only hardcore maps I played (TDM Canals is the map with all the shipping containers right?)

Two of the best weapons on the game are the starting weapons especially the m16/m4 hell you can use any weapon really. When i play US i still use the M4A1 to this day, have more kills with it than any other weapon as well.

I agree with your post before this one about health regen it's too fast and vehicle regeneration is just idiotic IMO. Then again that's part of DICE's "balancing scheme"

...i'm stuck in my BF2 ways and always will be redface.gif
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Two of the best weapons on the game are the starting weapons especially the m16/m4 hell you can use any weapon really. When i play US i still use the M4A1 to this day, have more kills with it than any other weapon as well.

I agree with your post before this one about health regen it's too fast and vehicle regeneration is just idiotic IMO. Then again that's part of DICE's "balancing scheme"

...i'm stuck in my BF2 ways and always will be redface.gif

I was having a hard time with these guys that would have some sort of SMGs. Any other weapon didn't seem to be too bad...even heavy machine guns since if I had some range I could avoid their fire. Those SMGs though...this massive spray of bullets came out and it seemed like if a couple hit I'd be dead. Plus they seemed to have tighter patterns than the other guns at longer ranges though that might have been suppression kicking in on me...I didn't know about it at the time. I just had an awful time with them.

I actually had pretty good luck with a pistol in hardcore mode. the fast firing and accuracy worked well and it took about three to six hits to kill some one.
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.... just play hardcore , its better ...


been playing hardcore since the beginning because people are bullet sponges , health regen and alot of random noobness in the matches


ohh , and stay away from metro and TDM Canals ...


Agree with this, all I play is Hardcore, can't stand auto healing vehicles.
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not a fan of the hard core...they removed the crosshairs and if I have a gun in my hands I don't need to be looking down the sights to know about where my rounds will go. Plus they upped the bullet damage...or lowered health. It seems like a paper cut will kill you. So it is hard to take out anyone with a weapon with a high rate of fire...which if you are new to the game you haven't unlocked much yet. Granted I think normal takes too much damage to kill some one, but hardcore took it too far.

It is annoying. I get clipped, and I can't even turn around to face the person shooting me. On top of that not knowing exactly where you're firing when you have to shoot from the hip makes close quarters shots complete guess work.
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I was having a hard time with these guys that would have some sort of SMGs. Any other weapon didn't seem to be too bad...even heavy machine guns since if I had some range I could avoid their fire. Those SMGs though...this massive spray of bullets came out and it seemed like if a couple hit I'd be dead. Plus they seemed to have tighter patterns than the other guns at longer ranges though that might have been suppression kicking in on me...I didn't know about it at the time. I just had an awful time with them.

I actually had pretty good luck with a pistol in hardcore mode. the fast firing and accuracy worked well and it took about three to six hits to kill some one.

Could it have been the AS VAL? That gun's a beast. That or the PP-19.
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It is annoying. I get clipped, and I can't even turn around to face the person shooting me. On top of that not knowing exactly where you're firing when you have to shoot from the hip makes close quarters shots complete guess work.

Turning to face the person shooting at you is never really a smart thing to do. It's better to run to the nearest cover unless you're in open and well, in that case, you're screwed anyway. tongue.gif

Firing from the hip isn't that bad if you have a good idea of where your crosshair should be.
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not a fan of the hard core...they removed the crosshairs and if I have a gun in my hands I don't need to be looking down the sights to know about where my rounds will go. Plus they upped the bullet damage...or lowered health. It seems like a paper cut will kill you. So it is hard to take out anyone with a weapon with a high rate of fire...which if you are new to the game you haven't unlocked much yet. Granted I think normal takes too much damage to kill some one, but hardcore took it too far.

Heh, though I think those maps are the only hardcore maps I played (TDM Canals is the map with all the shipping containers right?)

So after all this circular about how BF3 doesn't encourage teamwork, people are unanimously denouncing the game mode that promotes the most teamwork In the game O_o

Easy mode is too easy.

Hard mode is too hard.

If you are good enough, the removal of crosshairs won't mean a thing, especially with the increased bullet damage.

If you are trying to play counter strike in BF3 HC mode and are upset you can't "recoil control" win at longer ranges against a person who is ADS, you're probably playing the wrong game.
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The only thing they could have really added in DLC are the competitive modes and features. They take a lot of thought and planning to do right, though, and DICE wants to do it right (which is why they've been talking to competitive gamers like JackFrags).

I can't argue against the fact it makes BF3 sound like a beta for BF4, but isn't that what a lot of games are? Use what they learn from the previous game to improve the next in the series. At least DICE is improving the game on all fronts, rather than keeping them similar like CoD has done and Assassin's Creed is starting to do. Even the single player looks like a huge improvement.

do you remenber when games last more than a year ?? or when they have mods tools and the game simply like arma was done by the gamer remenber that time never come again becouse of peopel that accept this thing, a game a year with littel change, i want that the games last more online give me more not just this, for exampel arma 3 develope only give us the engine and the base game we expand that to other level, bf biggest map is bandar desert is like 2 km in game arma 2 if i remenber has falluja is 5 KM full of building where you can enter in almost everyone thats is more that what bf3 premiun give me, i really want more if i gonna buy a game 1 year after buying the previous one frown.gif
    
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do you remenber when games last more than a year ?? or when they have mods tools and the game simply like arma was done by the gamer remenber that time never come again becouse of peopel that accept this thing, a game a year with littel change, i want that the games last more online give me more not just this, for exampel arma 3 develope only give us the engine and the base game we expand that to other level, bf biggest map is bandar desert is like 2 km in game arma 2 if i remenber has falluja is 5 KM full of building where you can enter in almost everyone thats is more that what bf3 premiun give me, i really want more if i gonna buy a game 1 year after buying the previous one frown.gif

I'm sorry, but I really don't understand anything you said. :/
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Regarding hardcore, I like to think of it not as a mode that gets me killed easier, but a mode that enables me to kill the enemy easier tongue.gif You get used to the absence of the crosshairs, if you play enough fps's or just BF3 normal mode, you'll have an idea of where your bullets will go when hip firing...this is my experience with it though but I generally always ADS unless I'm surprised going around a corner.
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