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idk about you guys, but I've been destroying people with the M249, M240B, MG36 and the L86A2 (which doesn't even feel like a LMG), and I only use the bi-pod when I'm playing Rush. I've also picked off snipers on Metro with a bi-pod LMG. Either the PC is COMPLETELY different or some of you have no clue how to properly manage a LMG, and that's coming from someone that abused the laser pointing, can't miss a shot even if you tried ARs. Matter of fact, I've earned 9 service stars with the M249 (NOT an easy weapon to use by far) before I went back to Assault and picked the F2000.....I can't begin to explain how much easier that gun was compared to any of the LMG's I used.
Bipod-LMG on Metro works VERY WELL because enemies have such an incredibly small angle to attack you from, you can point your LMG in one direction and fire single shots to preemptively suppress any potential enemies (snipers included) because they can't approach you from any other angle. They are basically screwed unless they're VERY good with a quick-scope shot timed with a break in your fire (but then you can get a fellow LMG user to simply cover you while you're reloading lol).

Try doing that where there is a far wider angle-of-approach and a lot more cover for snipers (more open maps, longer distances), and by the time you spot the sniper and fire in his direction to suppress/kill him, he will already have shot his 1 bullet and you will be dead. Remember you're laying perfectly still while they have the option of peeking in and out of cover, they only need to land 1 bullet and it's piss easy to do that very fast with a mouse.

Also in mid-range an LMG stands no chance against an assault rifle/carbine user unless you get lucky. Standing up and firing with ADS = too much spread! On consoles I've seen most kills happening with body shots regardless of game (be it CoD, Borderlands, whatever) but on PC people will snap-aim to your head and quickly take you down. Spread REALLY matters when we're talking mouse-level accuracy, and it's where LMG's ultimately lose. I am yet to see a high-level player using an LMG in Conquest on 80% of the open maps, they're almost always using the standard M16/M4/AEK/etc because those guns are just too damn handy for all-round situations. Very accurate on-the-move with low recoil, all without needing bipod - just a quick burst-fire to the head and the enemy will die at most distances.
LMGs = way too situational, very niche guns. Like the entire Recon class tongue.gif
Edited by Tippy - 4/4/13 at 5:30pm
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Day one purchase for sure smile.gif.
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Day one purchase here, hoping for the best!
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Day one purchase for sure smile.gif.

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Day one purchase here, hoping for the best!

Why don't you guys pre order in that case?
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Why don't you guys pre order in that case?

What real tangible incentive or bonus do they get?
Besides a pathetic useless tag.
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What real tangible incentive or bonus do they get?
Besides a pathetic useless tag.
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What real tangible incentive or bonus do they get?
Besides a pathetic useless tag.

Sadly, that is enough for most of the target audience.
    
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What real tangible incentive or bonus do they get?
Besides a pathetic useless tag.

Getting the game? Although you get a the expansion for free as well. What's the need for an incentive? Why not pre-order when you know you're going to get the game day one anyway? It's not like it costs more to pre-order.
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Sadly, that is enough for most of the target audience.

You really think people are thinking "Hey, I'm going to pre-order Battlefield 4 to get some dog tags!" not "Hey, I'm going to pre-order Battlefield 4 because it's effin Battlefield 4!?"
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Getting the game? Although you get a the expansion for free as well. What's the need for an incentive? Why not pre-order when you know you're going to get the game day one anyway? It's not like it costs more to pre-order.
You really think people are thinking "Hey, I'm going to pre-order Battlefield 4 to get some dog tags!" not "Hey, I'm going to pre-order Battlefield 4 because it's effin Battlefield 4!?"

You're confusing what you'd think was an attempt to discuss, with what is actually an excuse to whine about something.

For instance, people keep making the argument that people shouldn't pre-order for bonuses and should just do so if they know they want the game/to get the game delivered on day of release/preloading etc.

Two people who asserted BF4 was a day one purchase were asked why they don't pre-order, which was met with "but you don't even get enough cool bonuses! There's no point!" kind of replies.

People don't always know what they want, but they do know that they like to whine (even if its whining about wanting stuff they previously whined about not wanting), and so they will whine.
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You're confusing what you'd think was an attempt to discuss, with what is actually an excuse to whine about something.

For instance, people keep making the argument that people shouldn't pre-order for bonuses and should just do so if they know they want the game/to get the game delivered on day of release/preloading etc.

Two people who asserted BF4 was a day one purchase were asked why they don't pre-order, which was met with "but you don't even get enough cool bonuses! There's no point!" kind of replies.

People don't always know what they want, but they do know that they like to whine (even if its whining about wanting stuff they previously whined about not wanting), and so they will whine.

Lol Touché.

But what happened to the days when u got a cool graphic book or some exclusive gear that no one other than the pre-purchase got?

Iv learnt my lesson i got burnt with "Rage" and "BF3" so no pre-purchase for me ever again.
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