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Hmm..... I cannot figure out if I should pull the trigger on this or not. I've always wanted a 1440p monitor, but if I get one, then I will need another GTX670 to max out settings, and I can't afford a second GPU AND a new monitor. I currently game on a Dell U2412m and I like it a lot. Has anyone gone from 1200 to 1440? Was it worth it? I figure my total cost to upgrade would be about $300 if I sold my 2412m.

Just run everything in window mode or with subsample (i.e. 1080p on 2560x1440) with a bit of blurriness.
Edited by AlphaC - 3/27/13 at 6:22pm
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post #22 of 31
Just checked and mine is being delivered today. Gotta love NewEgg! 4-7 day free shipping arriving overnight from NJ. thumb.gif

Can't wait to fire this up!
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There is one caveat though, unlike the U2713H , the U2712HM is e-ips with sRGB , the same panel in the iMac 27" but with an anti-glare coating.

Not good if you need a full blown wide gamut monitor (the $700+ U2713, or Asus PB27Q are more suited for that) but for all else it's great.

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2713hm.htm
http://www.prad.de/en/monitore/review/2012/review-dell-u2713hm.html
http://www.macworld.com/article/2011460/review-dell-ultrasharp-u2713hm-a-nonglossy-alternative-to-apples-displays.html
http://pcmonitors.info/reviews/dell-u2713hm
http://us.hardware.info/reviews/3197/dell-uh2713hm-review-high-resolution-and-high-efficiency

wait, so this wouldn't be a good monitor for more digital art? This has the anti-glare coating? Would Microcenter's Auria monitor be better suited for say photoshop?
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wait, so this wouldn't be a good monitor for more digital art? This has the anti-glare coating? Would Microcenter's Auria monitor be better suited for say photoshop?

It is fine, as long as you don't need wide gamut (wider color range, but usually garbage sRGB emulation). AG is pretty light by all accounts.

For color reproduction of non-sRGB (Adobe RGB) you need S-IPS/PLS panels like the Koreans (which have inconsistencies & lower Quality control) and PB278Q or U2713H.

All HM stuff is standard 8-bit (16.7 million colours) & Standard Gamut / sRGB (72% NTSC), whereas the U2713H is a full blown PremierColor monitor having 8-bit + A-FRC (10-bit) with 1.07 billion colours ; Wide gamut (103% NTSC, 99% Adobe RGB).

As I wrote earlier, this is the same panel as Apple's iMac 27" so if you don't need wide gamut or don't know what it is, you likely don't need it. Quadro/Firepro is preferred for 10-bit anyhow and older CRTs were ~70% National Television System Committee.

edit: If you need 10-bit color you need a 10-bit GPU, 10-bit software, 10-bit interface (DP/HDMI) as well

edit 2: as someone more knowledgable than me explained it, gamut=color range, 10-bit refers to depth (gradation) which is basically how many different colors for a range of color values (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth#Deep_color_.2830.2F36.2F48-bit.29)
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I gotta say, there are a lot of misconceptions about 8 bit panels vs 10 bit panels. There is no reason any person here should bother with a 10 bit IPS panel over an 8 bit panel. Anyway, AlphaC hits most of the correct points, but let me add on to this. 10 bit color is a non issue except for professionals with a ton of cash. You can't even use 10 bit color without a quadro or firepro card, only workstation cards will allow for 10 bit output in adobe suite and workstation applications. Consumer cards (eg geforce, radeon) only allow 10 bit output in D3D games which is a non-issue because there are no games that use 8 bit color or 10 BpC color.

see here: http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3011/~/10-bit-per-color-support-on-nvidia-geforce-gpus
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Due to the way most applications use traditional Windows API functions to create the application UI and viewport display, this method is not used for professional applications such as Adobe Premiere Pro and Adobe Photoshop. These programs use OpenGL 10-bit per color buffers which require an NVIDIA Quadro GPU with DisplayPort connector. A small number of monitors support 10-bit per color with Quadro graphics cards over DVI. For more information on NVIDIA professional line of Quadro GPUs, please visit:

You should only be concerned about 10 bit color if you:

1) Have a quadro / firepro card
2) are a true photo/video editing professional and require adobe RGB
3) Know how to use adobe RGB. If you have to ask, you don't know. sRGB is the ONLY output that should be used by 99% of users.
4) It should be stressed that anyone using Adobe RGB has to be a professional. It is VERY hard to manipulate and if you don't know what you're doing, the colors will be more dull than sRGB every time. This is a professional setting only used by very few professionals. If you have to ask, you don't know what you're doing with Adobe RGB.
Edited by xoleras - 3/28/13 at 7:44am
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i have one its great, tough possibly has minor bleeding on bottom left part. but really really minor. or maybe i am imagining i dont know. tough i kind of think that i should have bought u3011 smile.gif well buyers remorse. will buy 1600p once this one stops working, in 10 years or so smile.gif had viesonic 19inch which worked for 8 years day and night

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I gotta say, there are a lot of misconceptions about 8 bit panels vs 10 bit panels. There is no reason any person here should bother with a 10 bit IPS panel over an 8 bit panel. Anyway, AlphaC hits most of the correct points, but let me add on to this. 10 bit color is a non issue except for professionals with a ton of cash. You can't even use 10 bit color without a quadro or firepro card, only workstation cards will allow for 10 bit output in adobe suite and workstation applications. Consumer cards (eg geforce, radeon) only allow 10 bit output in D3D games which is a non-issue because there are no games that use 8 bit color or 10 BpC color.

see here: http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3011/~/10-bit-per-color-support-on-nvidia-geforce-gpus
You should only be concerned about 10 bit color if you:

1) Have a quadro / firepro card

2) are a true photo/video editing professional and require adobe RGB
3) Know how to use adobe RGB. If you have to ask, you don't know. sRGB is the ONLY output that should be used by 99% of users.
4) It should be stressed that anyone using Adobe RGB has to be a professional. It is VERY hard to manipulate and if you don't know what you're doing, the colors will be more dull than sRGB every time. This is a professional setting only used by very few professionals. If you have to ask, you don't know what you're doing with Adobe RGB.

curious, does a Titan support 10 bit color?
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post #28 of 31
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curious, does a Titan support 10 bit color?

It's a consumer card so it has the same limitations as geforce and radeon. It only supports 10 bit color in D3D which is worthless as mentioned. You need Quadro or Firepro for 10 bit output in professional apps.
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I have two of these monitors. And they both have on the left side some minor bleeding. But that's with most ips display anyway. Am happy with my ones
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I got mine today. It has minor light bleed on lower left, but I'm fine with it since I'm coming from 1080P TN panels. So this thing rules compared to my old monitors. I wasn't even considering this monitor much. I was looking at monitors in the $800-$1000 range, so as soon as I saw it on slickdeals for $550 I didn't hesitate smile.gif
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