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Here's my suggestion for a $600 set-and-forget Intel build:

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 $130
MOBO: Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H $73
RAM: Corsair CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9 2x4GB DDR3-1600 $48
GPU: EVGA GTX 650 Ti BOOST 2GB Superclocked $186
HDD: Western Digital WD10EZEX 1TB $72
DVD: LG GH24NS95 $18
PSU: Corsair Builder Series CX430 $35 after $10 MIR
CASE: NZXT Source 210 $45

Total: $607 after $10 MIR on the power supply.

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post #22 of 48
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That i3 is a terrible choice, the FX6300 is much better.

Not for things that require competent per-core performance and/or use no more than 2 cores heavily.

EDIT: Even more so in this case, since the OP said no OCing for this rig.
Edited by svenge - 3/27/13 at 7:01pm
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Holy cow guys, thank you so very much smile.gif Awesome lists, and no, to answer your question, no overclocking. I'm having my nephew build it so he gets a better understanding of computers, and I've been so far out of the building area, I was completely lost on what to get lol. Thank you again for all your suggestions, now just need to pick one biggrin.gif
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Not for things that require competent per-core performance and/or use no more than 2 cores heavily.

EDIT: Even more so in this case, since the OP said no OCing for this rig.
Any app that doesn't use 4 cores properly shouldn't be used and is frankly, a wastage of time. This is 2013 time to get apps that are multithreaded and plus Intel Extreme procs have been 6 core for a while now so surely most apps should use 6 core right? Well they should. smile.gif
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post #25 of 48
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Not for things that require competent per-core performance and/or use no more than 2 cores heavily.

EDIT: Even more so in this case, since the OP said no OCing for this rig.

First off if your going to look at it at stock only performance.
The i3 will give you Slightly more Single thread performance for lot less multithread performance.
Now while OP will not overclock, if he were to change his mind and do a easy mild OC he could match the i3 in single thread pretty easy.
AMD3+ as a socket still has steamroller coming so at least he has a better upgrade path.
Most modern games will play better on the FX6300, for the next 1-3year he will have better performance with the FX.
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First off if your going to look at it at stock only performance.
The i3 will give you Slightly more Single thread performance for lot less multithread performance.
Now while OP will not overclock, if he were to change his mind and do a easy mild OC he could match the i3 in single thread pretty easy.
AMD3+ as a socket still has steamroller coming so at least he has a better upgrade path.
Most modern games will play better on the FX6300, for the next 1-3year he will have better performance with the FX.

Slightly better single-threaded performance? Try 30%.

And wouldn't the potential future upgrade from an i3 to the already-proven performance of a i5-3570K or i7-3770K be better than the highly speculative performance that the Steamroller may or may not provide? The way I see it, Steamroller may not even match up to an Ivy Bridge 3570K, and certainly not in terms of IPC.

Did you forget what happened to all the AMD fans with AM3+ boards who got burnt pinning their hopes on Bulldozer and Piledriver?
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Slightly better single-threaded performance? Try 30%.

And wouldn't the potential future upgrade from an i3 to the already-proven performance of a i5-3570K or i7-3770K be better than the highly speculative performance that the Steamroller may or may not provide? The way I see it, Steamroller may not even match up to an Ivy Bridge 3570K, and certainly not in terms of IPC.

Did you forget what happened to all the AMD fans with AM3+ boards who got burnt pinning their hopes on Bulldozer and Piledriver?

That is IF AMD gets their stuff done right this time, well, they better do. They have great engineers this time round and also they have been cocking up ever since K10 needing to release K10.5 to "fix" K10 which literally K10.5 is totally what K10 is supposed to be
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Look at the massive exaggeration in this thread by some posters.

BF3 and Crysis 3 have shown that multicore is the future, getting an i3 with higher single thread performance isn't the way to go anymore. Also more cores allows the CPU to carry out more tasks. Those who scoff at this idea have no clue that it's very easy for a browser to chew up an entire core, leaving only one core for other tasks. My laptop and my offspring's PC have dual core CPU's and they frustrate me to no end. If OP intends to keep this PC for any length of time he will regret not getting more cores.
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Intel® Clear Video HD Technology
Intel® Turbo Boost Technology 2.0
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Considering your CPU and the i3 being recommended in this thread are APU's, I thank you for recommending the FX6300.
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Slightly better single-threaded performance? Try 30%.

And wouldn't the potential future upgrade from an i3 to the already-proven performance of a i5-3570K or i7-3770K be better than the highly speculative performance that the Steamroller may or may not provide? The way I see it, Steamroller may not even match up to an Ivy Bridge 3570K, and certainly not in terms of IPC.

Did you forget what happened to all the AMD fans with AM3+ boards who got burnt pinning their hopes on Bulldozer and Piledriver?

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/699?vs=677
looking at the cinebench the single thread advantage does not excuse the large multithreading gap.
The FX simply will be better at gaming, even Skyrim a more CPU dependent game is more liking to the FX.
The future in game is multithreading, period! all one needs to do is look at the specs of next gen console to know this.
CPU performance for normal everyday apps is already to the point that even lower class CPUs like a i3 will have no problem with. My laptop with a T9600 and a Samsung 830 64gb SSD feels just as fast as my main i7 rig in most basic tasks like web browsing.

The FX8350 can already match a stock 3570k in most games.
And if OP gets a non overclocking 1155 board why upgrade to a K CPU?
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http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/699?vs=677
looking at the cinebench the single thread advantage does not excuse the large multithreading gap.
The FX simply will be better at gaming, even Skyrim a more CPU dependent game is more liking to the FX.
The future in game is multithreading, period! all one needs to do is look at the specs of next gen console to know this.
CPU performance for normal everyday apps is already to the point that even lower class CPUs like a i3 will have no problem with. My laptop with a T9600 and a Samsung 830 64gb SSD feels just as fast as my main i7 rig in most basic tasks like web browsing.

The FX8350 can already match a stock 3570k in most games.
And if OP gets a non overclocking 1155 board why upgrade to a K CPU?

If you follow his other posts you will see it's purely Intel love. He can't think objectively over his abject love (fanboyism) for Intel.
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