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If you follow his other posts you will see it's purely Intel love. He can't think objectively over his abject love (fanboyism) for Intel.

I've read your other posts, and you're an even worse fanboy for AMD. Oh well, at least I live where I can think what I will without being subject to "re-education through labor".
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It's turned into an Intel VS Amd war ... Guys we're trying to help someone here.
So personal rancors put aside,
if you go for an intel core i3, you go for a processor that is a dual core with hyperthreading so multithreads apps will benefit from that. Intel's architecture being more efficient in games comparing to amd's processors, if we compare based on the same clock speed.
Now if you go Amd, you benefit from cheaper MHz so maybe you could get more performances out of an amd cpu for the same price but you'd have to consider overclock. Also Amd fusion works better than lucid virtu meaning that you would benefit from the internal graphics core while you simply wouldn't with an intel cpu. That is if you choose an Amd graphics card of course.
Overall if you are not interested in raw stock power but more on the educational virtues that building a computer brings, you might want to get the amd version.
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^ Hyperthreading sometimes does not benefit much apart from being a dual-core. I have seen stuff that runs well on a native hexa-core (Not ACTUALLY a hexa-core but recognized as 6C/6T anyway) but is just SLOW on a native dual-core with hyperthreading
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It's turned into an Intel VS Amd war ... Guys we're trying to help someone here.
So personal rancors put aside,
if you go for an intel core i3, you go for a processor that is a dual core with hyperthreading so multithreads apps will benefit from that. Intel's architecture being more efficient in games comparing to amd's processors, if we compare based on the same clock speed.
Now if you go Amd, you benefit from cheaper MHz so maybe you could get more performances out of an amd cpu for the same price but you'd have to consider overclock. Also Amd fusion works better than lucid virtu meaning that you would benefit from the internal graphics core while you simply wouldn't with an intel cpu. That is if you choose an Amd graphics card of course.
Overall if you are not interested in raw stock power but more on the educational virtues that building a computer brings, you might want to get the amd version.

You are wrong. AMD have the core advantage, Intel the single thread. Hyper threading isn't nearly as effective as actual cores, as has been proven repeatedly. A dual core, whether AMD or Intel, will become obsolete soon enough and there's no way hyper threading can solve the lack of real core. Benchmarks have proven in this thread that an FX6300 is superior to the i3, in some cases massively so.

Personally I think OP will regret it if he gets the i3, especially as ever more programs become multi threaded. Skype easily runs my laptops CPU at 100%, leaving one core available and that can really slow the system down.
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^ Hyperthreading sometimes does not benefit much apart from being a dual-core. I have seen stuff that runs well on a native hexa-core (Not ACTUALLY a hexa-core but recognized as 6C/6T anyway) but is just SLOW on a native dual-core with hyperthreading

If you are referring to the FX6300 it is a real hexacore.
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Sigh... triple post!
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I was. But my point is the entire PD line is also real cores. Not false cores like Intel fanboys like to claim (Again, won't say who)
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Hyper threading isn't nearly as effective as actual cores, as has been proven repeatedly.

You are right about that. But it's efficient enough to justify an i3 for gaming needs. And it lowers power consumption. The TDP difference between FX6300 and i3 3220 is 40 W ... 40 !!!
I'm not trying to invalidate your arguments but i'm trying to bring everything to the table to help our friend to make his own right decision and it seems you wouldn't allow it ... someone buying intel doesn't mean you were wrong about your choice. I know you are defending your favorite brand but your profile reads AMD overclocker ... his doesn't .. he just want advice for a first build for his nephew, don't make it personnal.
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I think this thread needs locked before this gets out of hand... Anyway here's my suggestion

Get a fx 6300 and and and radeon 7770ghz edition from amazon its about 10$ cheaper there

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